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TheNuthatch · 2025-09-29T21:18:57+00:00

A chat thread for those who *don't* like this Labour government. ^The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.^ Previous thread [[https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/_chat/5416167-labour-isnt-working-thread-10 https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/_chat/5416167-labour-isnt-working-thread-10?utm_campaign=thread&utm_medium=share]]

Boohoo76 · 30/09/2025 07:29

Those of us with DC in private schools warned that this Government would look at putting VAT on other exempt supplies including healthcare. We were gaslit by many Labour supporters who rubbished our claims.

MantleStatue · 30/09/2025 07:33

100%

Absentosaur · 30/09/2025 07:33

TwistyTurnip · 30/09/2025 07:24

Good morning. Well, I’ve just woken up to the news that the chancellor is considering a 20% VAT charge on private health care. So if someone had just enough money to scrape together to pay for life saving treatment that they couldn’t get on the NHS, or that they need urgently, they will no longer be able to afford to do so. This will cost lives. And now millions who will now be priced out of private health care, will now need to use an already stretched NHS. It’s scary that people who are in charge of running the country would think up such a stupid idea.

Yes. People who are wealthy enough will just pay directly no probs, or they will have private health insurance (the cost of which will go up).

So yet again they are punishing not very wealthy people who are are trying to make the quality of life better for themselves / their kids.

Yep just like the tax on education. A tax on health care is despicable. They make me sick.

twistyizzy · 30/09/2025 07:37

MantleStatue · 30/09/2025 06:56

Punish the people who use their own money (when they should not have to) to help alleviate the pressures on a strained and struggling system.

Where have we heard that before?

(I can't work out how to make this clunky sentence less clunky, but hopefully my point is clear!!)

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Yep that's their MO.
Tax the people who cost the state the least amount 🙄

twistyizzy · 30/09/2025 07:38

Boohoo76 · 30/09/2025 07:29

Those of us with DC in private schools warned that this Government would look at putting VAT on other exempt supplies including healthcare. We were gaslit by many Labour supporters who rubbished our claims.

We did.
We continue to be.

Parsley4321 · 30/09/2025 07:38

Every single time they do anything I just want to go ArGHHHH you financially illiterate idiots ! Pit vat on school fees overload the system put vat on health care overload the system talk about digital id you get a big revolt keep allowing use of asylum hotels people get pissed off practice two tier justice you get people pissed off. Let them dig these stupid holes for themselves crack on you idiots

Rivalled · 30/09/2025 07:39

It’s probably just another scare story so we all feel relief it’s not as bad as we thought.

but I could see them raising tax on people receiving private health plans as a benefit from work - clearly the idle rich again.

EasternStandard · 30/09/2025 07:40

TwistyTurnip · 30/09/2025 07:24

Good morning. Well, I’ve just woken up to the news that the chancellor is considering a 20% VAT charge on private health care. So if someone had just enough money to scrape together to pay for life saving treatment that they couldn’t get on the NHS, or that they need urgently, they will no longer be able to afford to do so. This will cost lives. And now millions who will now be priced out of private health care, will now need to use an already stretched NHS. It’s scary that people who are in charge of running the country would think up such a stupid idea.

They’re idiots and they’re sinking. A dangerous combination.

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TheNuthatch · 30/09/2025 07:46

EasternStandard · 30/09/2025 07:40

They’re idiots and they’re sinking. A dangerous combination.

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Yep. Slash and burn.

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twistyizzy · 30/09/2025 07:48

But it's still all a comms/PR issue 🙄

Parsley4321 · 30/09/2025 07:49

Zia Yussef ❤️ reeves spending money like a drunken sailor 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
slash and burn that’s about it idiots

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TheNuthatch · 30/09/2025 07:52

twistyizzy · 30/09/2025 07:48

But it's still all a comms/PR issue 🙄

That old chestnut. Its getting boring now.

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EasternStandard · 30/09/2025 07:55

twistyizzy · 30/09/2025 07:48

But it's still all a comms/PR issue 🙄

Even the comms are getting pissed off with this take, they keep quitting 😬 I don’t blame them. It’s not a comms issue it’s Starmer / Reeves and Labour.

ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · 30/09/2025 08:00

Well, apparently the breakfast policy was a resounding success and has singlehandedly turned the education from pumpkin into a Jaguar/LandRover!

Rejoice!

Oh hang on, maybe it was the other way round...

twistyizzy · 30/09/2025 08:01

ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · 30/09/2025 08:00

Well, apparently the breakfast policy was a resounding success and has singlehandedly turned the education from pumpkin into a Jaguar/LandRover!

Rejoice!

Oh hang on, maybe it was the other way round...

🤣🤣🤣

upseedaisee · 30/09/2025 08:02

Mornign all. Blimey, I go to bed early and we're on thread 11!

Lutonsgirl · 30/09/2025 08:05

Good morning..thanks for the new thread @TheNuthatch ..here's my tax.....

Nah! Just kidding

twistyizzy · 30/09/2025 08:06

ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · 30/09/2025 08:00

Well, apparently the breakfast policy was a resounding success and has singlehandedly turned the education from pumpkin into a Jaguar/LandRover!

Rejoice!

Oh hang on, maybe it was the other way round...

There is actually a serious issue behind breakfast clubs PR. Many schools had well established breakfast clubs opening 1 hour before school starts (with a nominal payment from parents but offered a wide range of food inciuding fruit etc) but have been forced to close these and open the "free" ones. These "free" ones often only open 30 mins before school starts and have shitty food on offer.
In addition, Labour have had to hire "breakfast advisors" to encourage schools to take these "free" clubs up because the initial uptake was so low.

Then add in that the parents who don't feed their own DC in a morning are hardly likeky to be getting up earlier to drop their DC at school early. It isn't hitting the target audience and the kids are getting much lower quality food.

twistyizzy · 30/09/2025 08:06

Lutonsgirl · 30/09/2025 08:05

Good morning..thanks for the new thread @TheNuthatch ..here's my tax.....

Nah! Just kidding

🤣🤣🤣

Absentosaur · 30/09/2025 08:08

Lutonsgirl · 30/09/2025 08:05

Good morning..thanks for the new thread @TheNuthatch ..here's my tax.....

Nah! Just kidding

Quite ironic isn’t it … Labour the party of raising taxes on working people, and their party faithful on MN like their taxes too.. it’s almost as if it’s… part of their cult core.

ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · 30/09/2025 08:09

twistyizzy · 30/09/2025 08:06

There is actually a serious issue behind breakfast clubs PR. Many schools had well established breakfast clubs opening 1 hour before school starts (with a nominal payment from parents but offered a wide range of food inciuding fruit etc) but have been forced to close these and open the "free" ones. These "free" ones often only open 30 mins before school starts and have shitty food on offer.
In addition, Labour have had to hire "breakfast advisors" to encourage schools to take these "free" clubs up because the initial uptake was so low.

Then add in that the parents who don't feed their own DC in a morning are hardly likeky to be getting up earlier to drop their DC at school early. It isn't hitting the target audience and the kids are getting much lower quality food.

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It's been nothing but unintended consequences, hasn't it?

This what happens when there is no joined up thinking, or maybe no thinking at all.

upseedaisee · 30/09/2025 08:10

ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · 30/09/2025 08:00

Well, apparently the breakfast policy was a resounding success and has singlehandedly turned the education from pumpkin into a Jaguar/LandRover!

Rejoice!

Oh hang on, maybe it was the other way round...

Funny you mention this.
Me and my best mate nextdoor. he's six going on forty! were sitting on the wall discussing his school yesterday and I asked about the breakfast club and in his words.... "Oh I don't go to breakfast club for breakfast, the food is really bad and mum won't let me eat it." so I asked what was on offer. "white toast, hot dogs, sometimes cereal and fruit, sometimes not and you get milk."
Then his mum joined the conversation and said they have a very limited supply of decent food, so after the first 20 or so kids it's really only toast and jam left.
Yep, that would be a roaring success then! My best mate is a porridge boy, he's been brought up proper!

twistyizzy · 30/09/2025 08:12

ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · 30/09/2025 08:09

It's been nothing but unintended consequences, hasn't it?

This what happens when there is no joined up thinking, or maybe no thinking at all.

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I don't think anything they do is unintended

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TheNuthatch · 30/09/2025 08:13

Lutonsgirl · 30/09/2025 08:05

Good morning..thanks for the new thread @TheNuthatch ..here's my tax.....

Nah! Just kidding

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TheNuthatch · 30/09/2025 08:15

twistyizzy · 30/09/2025 08:06

There is actually a serious issue behind breakfast clubs PR. Many schools had well established breakfast clubs opening 1 hour before school starts (with a nominal payment from parents but offered a wide range of food inciuding fruit etc) but have been forced to close these and open the "free" ones. These "free" ones often only open 30 mins before school starts and have shitty food on offer.
In addition, Labour have had to hire "breakfast advisors" to encourage schools to take these "free" clubs up because the initial uptake was so low.

Then add in that the parents who don't feed their own DC in a morning are hardly likeky to be getting up earlier to drop their DC at school early. It isn't hitting the target audience and the kids are getting much lower quality food.

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Spot on.
Surely every parent knows this from personal experience with their own dc? Its madness and I don't understand why Labour keep boasting about it.

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