I also think if the conservatives want to win, they need to start going on the hustings, good old fashioned meet the people type stuff instead of visiting companies and farms. This is, I believe, the reason Reform does so well in the polls. Their members and MP's are out there meeting people and holding meetings throughout the country. In my county alone, there have been 4 since the last election, the conservatives have been conspicuous by their absence and because of that, no-one but the party faithful really knows what they stand for anymore.