Charlie Kirk dead

[Booneymil]

The last thread was taken down because of personal insults towards the man.

We should be able to have a thread about this news topic.

Report any insulting posts. Mumsnet can you please just delete the offending posts, instead of deleting the whole thread?

Thank you.

Charlie Kirk has died today. He was shot at a public talk that he was giving.

And? What’s your point? Genuinely? His hideous beliefs were unearthed and made public?

Can’t use one to protect ourselves though against intruders like they do in America. Not saying I’d be comfortable using one, but I guess that’s their norm.

Sorry I worded it incorrectly- by Brexit I meant the topic rather than a particular view. Yes he agreed with leaving the EU.

What is YOUR point?

Why are his views on abortion, relevant to his death?

If my anti-abortion friend got shot, I don't think the first thing i would say about her is 'she was anti abortion"

The fact he was shot and killed while essentially defending the right to own guns. Painful irony.

Yes, it is. And there ARE people who are "lovely" who are Trump supporters. I think they're misguided, but then, so are you with your assumption of moral superiority. I don't think your views (that it's fine to kill people like Charlie Kirk because you disagree with him) lovely either. It's abhorrent. What on earth is wrong with you? Argue vociferously, fine. Shooting people dead? Not fine. Who makes the decision on which particular opinions are so heinous it's okay to shoot people for expressing them? You personally?

It’s not just that though is it? It’s calling Kirk names and suggesting he deserved to die mere hours after being murdered for having a conversation on a college campus. The Left really needs to take a long hard look at itself.

In the example we’re talking about, it’s the sperm of a child rapist.

I’m struggling to believe you are pro-choice. Your way of talking about it is… not right somehow.

Reported. Arguing that women should be forced to keep babies which are a product of rape is horrific. Is this Handmaids Tale?

No one here is Charlie Kirk's friend.

The point stands. Simply being a supporter of Brexit does not equal being a neo nazi. You chose to conflate the two.

I know nothing of Charlie Kirk really, expect the little I've gathered in the last few hours, but the proportion of people commenting with a laughing emoji on SM is depressing. A man's been assassinated, FFS!

No i wasnt talking about the sperm of a child rapist. You completely made that up.

I said that MEN in general are always going to have an opinion on abortion, as their sperm is involved.

And yes i am pro choice.

I didn't write that anywhere.
That is not my opinion.

Who?

Well I guess if said friend was a staunch defender of having the right to guns (including saying some deaths were worthy collateral) and also stating that a 10yr old who was raped should give birth. It would probably be relevant as to why someone wanted to shoot them. Maybe they had a daughter who was raped?

Google is a marvellous invention or maybe just the news?

Because you seem very angry and invested in something that has little relevence to your life. If you support Trump just say so - it's not illegal - just awful.

No they didn't. There's a full stop between the statements.

He was pro Brexit.

He was also a Neo Nazi.

The poster doesn't say the murderer was a neo nazi because he was pro Brexit. That's you projecting.

Its the top news story of the day pet.

Im not sure if you are able to grasp that.

People discuss news stories on here

And I certainly do not support Trump

A low life, no mark, misogynist grifter who vocally defended the right of Americans to have heavy duty assault weapons despite the danger.

No, there aren't. Lovely people do not support the vile, corrupt, misogynistic, racist and just plain spiteful actions occuring. They just don't. But they're your friends/colleagues/family, whatever so it's ok for you to cling to them being 'lovely'

I have not said it is fine to kill people like Charlie Kirk. I have said very little about Charlie Kirk, only that he was vile. And he was. He was no friend to women and was dripping with moral superiority. But you seem to have gone a little off track there and are angry over things never said 🤷‍♀️

Maybe it was the fact that I do not believe every death is a tragedy. Because it isn't. Quite separate from the rest of my post, it was just an idiotic statement I didn't want to go past

I'm not "projecting" anything, thanks. No need, and quite an odd accusation, frankly. The two statements read as being connected in the poster's mind, that's all.

If you look back at the posts I wrote about him stating a child should give birth to a rapists baby and you replied with ‘a man will always have an opinion as it’s his sperm.’ Don’t just reply again with ‘I never said that’ as everyone can see it if they just expand the reply to look at previous quotes

A few of kirk’s quotes:

"I think empathy is a made up New Age term that has done a lot of damage." --Charlie Kirk

"Don't let mass shooting victims control the narrative with empathy." --Charlie Kirk

"Gun violence deaths are the cost of keeping our 2nd amendment rights." --Charlie Kirk