Charlie Kirk dead

[Booneymil]

The last thread was taken down because of personal insults towards the man.

We should be able to have a thread about this news topic.

Report any insulting posts. Mumsnet can you please just delete the offending posts, instead of deleting the whole thread?

Thank you.

Charlie Kirk has died today. He was shot at a public talk that he was giving.

It’s necessary to use the word female now since the leftist misogyny that is trans rights co-opted the word woman to define men

I'm against any religion forcing their views on others via legislation.

What are the societal benefits of gun ownership without background checks?

His death was an acceptable loss and worth it for the greater good of protecting Americans second amendment which is a God given right.

I don’t believe a word of that, but he did. So there we go.

All this thread has done - for me - is to confirm how indoctrinated people are these days.

Another day for the "be kind" left wing evangelists to pat themselves on the back and ramp up the "it's his own fault" rhetoric.

I guess Iryna Zarutska, the Ukranian girl who was brutally murdered in a racist attack, and has avoided the news brought it on herself too.

Probably Trump trying to take the pressure off himself with the Qatar Hamas bombing & Ukraine/Russia & all the other shit. It wouldnt be thr first time a president has done something like this. (Bush.)

It would be lovely if the 'every death is a tragedy' posters said the same about the small boat drownings. I think it's only a very rare person who truly thinks that every death is tragic though. People don't shed tears for child rapists and serial killers. I personally wouldn't consider it a tragedy if Putin dropped dead.

I am horrified by this particular murder because I don't think people should be gunned down. Tragedy is a subjective term though.

You keep on replying to our posts with nonsense… does it bother you that most posters don’t care if an evil man died by the sword he was advocating?

OMGGGGG can you believe there is a woman on earth, in the UK, who is ANTI ABORTION ?!?

The horror. The danger.

You better be careful I don’t convince a woman not to have an abortion, that would be dangerous

I’m fine with freedom of religion. You’re free to believe what you want. But don’t impose that on others - which is exactly what he and Trump want to do. I am not Christian. I am not religious. So why should I be forced to live by those ideals?

@MyHeartyCoralSnail He was a strong Christian- abortion is against his faith. Are you generally against freedom of religion or just Christianity.

He was also a bigot, white supremacist, Christian nationalist, racist, antisemite, and Islamophobe.

@RingoJuice thatsa bit rich - I would also say the reverse is true - see Reform for details, no tolerance whatsoever of anyone who thinks Brexit was a pile of xenophobic shit, thinks Britain is not the bees knees , doesn’t necessarily think Nigel ‘talks sense’ and fully realises the E

and GB News are poisonous media bullshit with an agenda and

I know that. It's @MyHeartyCoralSnail who keeps misrepresenting the views on this thread because she's failed to grasp that the original thread, which had some repugnant and disrespectful comments about Kirk's murder, was deleted yesterday! 🙄

So are you indoctrinated too? Or are you the only person wise enough to have avoided it?

…and there we are again

You don’t care that CK was murdered.

cool

Be anti-abortion? That’s fine. I’m not 100% sure id ever get one myself. But that doesn’t give me the right to dictate what any other woman does with her body?

Not really that poor girl didn’t campaign for guns to owned by anyone did she. Apples to oranges.

That's ridiculous.

Racists and misogynistic people are not lovely. And they never will be

Reported for what? Stating that men will always have an opinion on abortion is not the same as arguing that women should keep their babies even after being raped.

If you go round calling your opponents Hitler and Nazis as many on the left do (John o donnell was doing that again only yesterday about Farage) some unhinged people will take you at your word and think they're doing the world a favour by killing them.

No. On the one that was deleted. So many posts were deleted for exactly that type of comment, that MN took it down.

Except that is exactly what will happen now, he will become a martyr for the right wing and an excuse for more political violence.

I absolutely abhor his politics, but I also abhor his murder. He was a young man, shot in front of his kids. He did not deserve that.

If we go down the path of justifying political assassination, we head into a very dark place. This tweet sums it up for me:

Can you imagine if anyone had said this here about a crimnial- eg George Floyd - killed whilst being arrested? The post rightfully wouldn’t last a minute.
Chsrlie Kirk committed no crime
But shame on MN for double standards.

Anti Semite and islamaphobe?
He was all over the place