Charlie Kirk dead

[Booneymil]

The last thread was taken down because of personal insults towards the man.

We should be able to have a thread about this news topic.

Report any insulting posts. Mumsnet can you please just delete the offending posts, instead of deleting the whole thread?

Thank you.

Charlie Kirk has died today. He was shot at a public talk that he was giving.

No. I was thinking of the victims of school shootings.

Did you just reply to me with a non answer because I’m trying to understand what exactly you’re on about!

That's your problem, not mine.

'The worm is turning'.

The hard left are horrible, but would you not be scared, or at least unhappy, about a US where there was no abortion available even if you were raped, gay marriage was repealed, and the hard-righters like the white Nationalists pp mentions were in power? People like Douglas Wilson, who says women should not vote and US should be a Theocracy (Pete Hegseth LOVES him)

I know this is not how it is now. But that's what the HARD right are like in the US.

Would you not be scared or at least unhappy if those things happened.....?

Or not....?

@Booneymil
Why haven't you answered my question above OP? You've replied to several other posters since I posed it to you, so why haven't you answered it?

Abortion hasn't been outlawed across all States. Trump is laughably seen as a dictator when the US has the first amendment. I agree with the pp about the loony left and hasn't its lunacy been on show tonight.

She's normally telling me how awful I am. I've got nothing on her posts.

Good night all. Sleep tight. I don't expect to see this thread by morning.

It's not simply slanted to recognise he had some extreme views.

Do you think that denying abortion to a 10yo rape victim is a NON-extreme view?

Not supporting lgb rights (not just t), wanting women to forgo career & college, and telling 30ys they are unattractive (despite marrying a 32yo woman w a career & college degree)is unpleasant,tho not in the extreme field. Ditto saying that the Pill automatically makes you 'crazy and bitter' Or do you think that's pleasant? Genial and kind, to quote your post?

https://x.com/CAgovernor/status/1965899170579202144

Gavin Newsom's statement on X.

Do you really think that, if he had been in a position of power, he would have abandoned all his views on abortion? Isn't It clear that he would certainly have put his views into law and would not have abandoned them?

I’m sure Hitlers wife was sad at his passing.
I’m sure Mussolini’s family were sad at his passing.
I’d imagine Charles Maurras, DF Malan and Nathan Bedford Forrest all would have been mourned by there families.

That doesn’t mean we should mourn them.

Is it sad for his family? Yes
Is it sad that he was assassinated, and will be made into an Anti Left martyr? Yes
Is it sad that there’s one less religious nut preaching racist, sexist, typically American right wing views? Nope not even a little bit.

It's because of who he is. Had he been a Democrat, their 'logic' would have been reversed. I'm not taking them seriously and agree this thread will be deleted. Night x

I was clear in my post that I was describing how the US would be IF the hard right were in charge.

I was NOT saying that's how it is now. I know quite well it is not. I don't think Trump is a dictator, that's ridiculous.

So....do you wish to answer my question?

How would you feel IF the hard right were in charge, and things were as I described in my previous post?

I don’t think his views were nearly as extreme as many of the views of people on this thread.

Holding the view that it’s fine for someone to be shot dead because they hold opposing views to you, is way more extreme than being anti-abortion.

@the5thgoldengirl You’re going to have to elaborate on the relevance of your response?

Charlie Kirk held a lot of views that I don't agree with. However, no one should be murdered for their political views.

I'm saddened but not surprised by some of the posts on this thread. Some posters should be truly ashamed of themselves.

What do you think of the total abortion bans in several states, quite a few (let me check which) with no rape exemptions?
What is your opinion on those?

Yes, those people are truly disgusting. No one should be murdered whatever views they hold. Ofc that is worst.

But do you not agree that wanting a raped 10yo to carry a child to term w no other option is extreme? Most anti abortionists do not go that far.