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Labour isn't working - Thread 6

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TheNuthatch · 22/08/2025 15:23

A chat thread for those who don't like this Labour government. Labour isn't working.

The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.

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NoWordForFluffy · 23/08/2025 19:26

twistyizzy · 23/08/2025 18:30

Oh yeh, hypocrisy is a required characteristic.
It's why I describe them as a cult; they won't allow debate or discussion ie shut it down, are complete hypocrites and just doggedly stick to the party script no matter what else evidence to the contrary.
Will be hilarious to see how they try to justify a move away from ECHR if what Blunkett suggests, happens. They will turn themselves in knots about it.

Hypocrisy with a side order of superiority complex!

TheNuthatch · 23/08/2025 19:27

Wishihadanalgorithm · 23/08/2025 18:26

I’m so pleased the topic of rabid Looney lefts has been raised. Recently, I was walking in town with some friends (middle aged women) and we walked past my MP (yup, a wet wipe Labour man) and I pointed him out. One woman (who worked in private schools for years) said “Oh Tory scum then?” I had to reply, “No Labour scum actually.” She didn’t say anything else after that but it struck me how the loonies all think everyone thinks the same as them and that they can spill their bile and expect it to positively received.

I even have a friend who works in a private school and has sent their DC to a private school and she has a sign up saying how much they hate the Tories in their house!

It’s like it’s trendy and funny to hate the Right and “open season” on them all of the time.

And this is why these threads are soooooo needed!

That speaks volumes doesnt it. A sign at their house to let the world know that they hate tories ffs. Your friend would love me lol!
It is trendy to hate tories. My kids hate tories too, "except you Mum" 😂😂

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TheNuthatch · 23/08/2025 19:33

ThePhantomoftheEcobubbleOpera · 23/08/2025 18:57

Germany is looking to take away public funding to those asylum seekers who are appealling their deportations and expanding the number of safe countries that they can be deported to.
https://share.google/nSyxtJkmrx4PF33YY

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Blimey that's an about turn for Germany isn't it. I may be wrong here, but I'm sure I read somewhere that Germany have also been deporting back to Afghanistan?

It probably means more migrants will arrive here instead, seeing as we have a whopping great neon 'welcome' sign on our south coast 🙄. As you once said, they might as well just start running a P&O ferry at this point.

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ThePhantomoftheEcobubbleOpera · 23/08/2025 20:15

Yes, the rise of the adf has required Metz to take a practical approach to the anti-immigration movement to stop it building any further momentum.

I'm not sure what it means for us... hopefully not p&o ferries 🫣

Julen7 · 23/08/2025 20:29

TheNuthatch · 23/08/2025 19:33

Blimey that's an about turn for Germany isn't it. I may be wrong here, but I'm sure I read somewhere that Germany have also been deporting back to Afghanistan?

It probably means more migrants will arrive here instead, seeing as we have a whopping great neon 'welcome' sign on our south coast 🙄. As you once said, they might as well just start running a P&O ferry at this point.

Whopping great neon welcome sign 😅

Indeed we do.

ThePhantomoftheEcobubbleOpera · 23/08/2025 22:46

Interesting article in tomorrow's paper,
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/gift/88dfe6f4cb0e1c68

"Prof Jagjit Chadha, who recently stepped down as the head of the National Institute for Economic and Social Research, claimed the economy was at risk of “collapse”.

He said the financial situation was “as perilous the period leading up to the IMF loan of 1976”, when Britain had to be bailed out by the global banking body.

He told the When the Facts Change Substack, written by the Telegraph columnist Liam Halligan: “I’m in a world in which I could imagine it [an IMF bailout] happening, and we’ll be bereft in that case.

“We will not be able to roll over debt, we will not be able to meet pensions payments, benefits will be hard to pay out.”

That's the most dire assessment of the shape of things that I've read so far. I don't think most people have a read on the damage that has been done over the last year but unless Reeves can do something quite exceptional- beyond additional taxation and stalling the economy further, the sum of poor policy decisions will bite hard.

Hollyohara · 23/08/2025 22:53

ThePhantomoftheEcobubbleOpera · 23/08/2025 22:46

Interesting article in tomorrow's paper,
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/gift/88dfe6f4cb0e1c68

"Prof Jagjit Chadha, who recently stepped down as the head of the National Institute for Economic and Social Research, claimed the economy was at risk of “collapse”.

He said the financial situation was “as perilous the period leading up to the IMF loan of 1976”, when Britain had to be bailed out by the global banking body.

He told the When the Facts Change Substack, written by the Telegraph columnist Liam Halligan: “I’m in a world in which I could imagine it [an IMF bailout] happening, and we’ll be bereft in that case.

“We will not be able to roll over debt, we will not be able to meet pensions payments, benefits will be hard to pay out.”

That's the most dire assessment of the shape of things that I've read so far. I don't think most people have a read on the damage that has been done over the last year but unless Reeves can do something quite exceptional- beyond additional taxation and stalling the economy further, the sum of poor policy decisions will bite hard.

‘Willem Buiter, another former member of the Monetary Policy Committee, said that, unless Ms Reeves changed course, she would face scrutiny from the markets “that will be at least as effective as the pressure from the IMF was in the 1970s”.

He said the Chancellor “will be forced” to break Labour’s manifesto and raise taxes on working people in the autumn to calm the bond markets.’

👀👀👀👀

Wishihadanalgorithm · 23/08/2025 23:14

I think we all can see taxes are going to increase again - for everyone in the next budget.

By the time these clowns are out of office and done all their damage, we will need a Thatcher-like character to get us back on something looking like an even keel.

Anyone else feel like days of Boris and birthday cake are from a fairytale past?

TheNuthatch · 23/08/2025 23:47

Yes. Give me cake ambushes any day over this.

Bloody hell 🤯

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twistyizzy · 24/08/2025 06:23

ThePhantomoftheEcobubbleOpera · 23/08/2025 22:46

Interesting article in tomorrow's paper,
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/gift/88dfe6f4cb0e1c68

"Prof Jagjit Chadha, who recently stepped down as the head of the National Institute for Economic and Social Research, claimed the economy was at risk of “collapse”.

He said the financial situation was “as perilous the period leading up to the IMF loan of 1976”, when Britain had to be bailed out by the global banking body.

He told the When the Facts Change Substack, written by the Telegraph columnist Liam Halligan: “I’m in a world in which I could imagine it [an IMF bailout] happening, and we’ll be bereft in that case.

“We will not be able to roll over debt, we will not be able to meet pensions payments, benefits will be hard to pay out.”

That's the most dire assessment of the shape of things that I've read so far. I don't think most people have a read on the damage that has been done over the last year but unless Reeves can do something quite exceptional- beyond additional taxation and stalling the economy further, the sum of poor policy decisions will bite hard.

And she's not capable of doing that so.........

Arrearing50 · 24/08/2025 07:47

Yes and Reeves knows it, but lacks the political power to get any kind of significant spending reform done - it’s clearly where we’re going to end. Tbh the IMF’s intervention over Truss should’ve woken us up to the precarious and worsening situation.

D23456789 · 24/08/2025 08:08

Wishihadanalgorithm · 23/08/2025 23:14

I think we all can see taxes are going to increase again - for everyone in the next budget.

By the time these clowns are out of office and done all their damage, we will need a Thatcher-like character to get us back on something looking like an even keel.

Anyone else feel like days of Boris and birthday cake are from a fairytale past?

I disliked Boris but I never thought we'd end up with a prime minister that was even worse. Yes I agree, we will need a strong leader after this shitshow has ended.

Lutonsgirl · 24/08/2025 08:33

Indeed the financial picture is bleak. As to who that strong leader is, any ideas for I have none!

Greyhoundmad83 · 24/08/2025 09:13

I'm so glad I've found my people.

I actually have sleepless nights over what is going on

twistyizzy · 24/08/2025 09:31

Starmer has been Community Noted on X because he tried to claim that the £3 bus fare cap is saving people money. In fact, Labour increased it from £2 under Tories, up to £3.
Their brazen attempts at gaslighting are at least being challenged now

Lutonsgirl · 24/08/2025 10:31

twistyizzy · 24/08/2025 09:31

Starmer has been Community Noted on X because he tried to claim that the £3 bus fare cap is saving people money. In fact, Labour increased it from £2 under Tories, up to £3.
Their brazen attempts at gaslighting are at least being challenged now

Who is doing his tweets...they are generally awful

KnickerlessParsons · 24/08/2025 10:45

D23456789 · 24/08/2025 08:08

I disliked Boris but I never thought we'd end up with a prime minister that was even worse. Yes I agree, we will need a strong leader after this shitshow has ended.

I’m not a big Boris fan either but we never really had the opportunity to see what he’d be like as PM in normal times. Most of his reign was spent dealing with Covid.

TheNuthatch · 24/08/2025 11:23

twistyizzy · 24/08/2025 09:31

Starmer has been Community Noted on X because he tried to claim that the £3 bus fare cap is saving people money. In fact, Labour increased it from £2 under Tories, up to £3.
Their brazen attempts at gaslighting are at least being challenged now

Posting disinformation on social media, tut tut.

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Julen7 · 24/08/2025 11:23

TheNuthatch · 24/08/2025 11:23

Posting disinformation on social media, tut tut.

Should be reported and banned

TheNuthatch · 24/08/2025 11:25

twistyizzy · 24/08/2025 07:58

In a way I hope IMF do get involved because then the left will have to shut up with the "what about Truss".

And then there's WC Raynor...
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15028265/Angela-Rayner-home-Labour-seaside-pad.html

Do as I say, not as I do.
Hypocrites the lot of them.

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twistyizzy · 24/08/2025 11:26

Julen7 · 24/08/2025 11:23

Should be reported and banned

😂

TheNuthatch · 24/08/2025 11:27

Julen7 · 24/08/2025 11:23

Should be reported and banned

Surely that warrants a custodial sentence at a time of social unrest? 😉

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twistyizzy · 24/08/2025 11:29

Well said

Labour isn't working - Thread 6
DenizenOfAisleOfShame · 24/08/2025 11:31

Starmer has strong form for playing fast and loose with facts. Just look at the Chagos bill and what he announced.

TBH I don’t expect politicians of any stripe to be especially truthful. But Starmer does stand out in that way.

I’m convinced it all comes from his personal ambition and towering self-regard, which even for a senior politician is gobsmacking. That’s also why he took freebies. I never believed a word of the Lord Ali penthouse explanation.

The only upside is that he’s storing up massive scorn and ridicule for when he has to break major manifesto pledges. Another politician could plead that facts have changed or the unexpected’s come about. But Starmer’s run out of road for goodwill and the benefit of the doubt.

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