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Lovely man, who on the face of it doesn't have a lot going for him.

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Wayetblue · 01/07/2025 09:28

Bear with me and I'll try and explain.

I'm a middle aged woman, financially and practically independent. I don't "need" a man and tbh in many ways prefer life without one, I certainly wasn't looking for one.

Then I met this man through a sport. One of many things I took up to "rebuild" and create this independent life for myself.

He's also middle aged, a bit younger than me, never married, no kids (which whilst may raise eyebrows has its pluses!) does some interesting work, but only works enough to keep the wolf from the door and pay for his trips etc, doesn't plan for the future or own his home, for example. He has a good single lifestyle, nice car and holidays, and pays his way, but he's not well set up. But I'm not looking for a financially sound life partner to.e.g. have a family with.

So, there's the cons. On the plus side, he's keen to see me, makes plans and sticks to them, completely reliable, i never feel anxious a out whether he'll call, doesnt play games, does loads of the "wife work", the admin of arranging a weekend away or a night out with friends. He has loads of ideas for fun things to do and makes them happen.

He manages to respect my independence and is happy for me to do things alone or with friends (including male friends) at the same time as letting me know he loves being with me. He manages to achieve that without ever making me feel bad for doing things without him, which may well be as it should be but I don't think that's always the case?

He's very supportive about anything I want to achieve and being with him is just comfortable. We have fun together and do interesting things, but doing "nothing" together is lovely too. He's also very kind to others. Through the sport we know some unusual people, e.g a young man with learning difficulties and some people with autism. He always goes out of his way to talk to those that others ignore, and include them in plans.

This weekend was the anniversary of a very difficult date for me. We went to a "thing" with a lot of mutual friends and aquaintances. It's what he loves, being with people, I find it more difficult, although I enjoy it once I'm there, I have to work at it, and this wasn't a good day for me, so I wasn't feeling great about it. We arrived together, he said some kind words and then we circulated seperately. It was all good, and every time I started to struggle he popped up by my shoulder to check on me, either chat with me for a bit or support the conversation I was having. It was like he was completely tuned into what I needed in that moment.

So, outwardly he's not a good catch, but things have been so good.

Now having written this out I realise my concerns are ridiculous, and he adds so much to my life, but I still think many on MN would think he's one to throw back because financially, I'm likely to carry the load, especially, as we approach old age/retirement.

I haven't really asked, but I suspect his retirement plans are mostly based on an anticipated inheritance. I don't love that about him, but it will be significant, even if his parent lives long and needs a lot of care,so I can kind of see why he might not worry about it, and the way he lives for the moment is one of the things that makes him good for me at this stage in life.

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Shesellsseashellsnotinmystreet · 01/07/2025 09:31

Imo if a man does your head good he is a good egg.
Nowt to lose by seeing him is there really op?

KateMiskin · 01/07/2025 09:31

I think he sounds fine.
No kids is a massive plus!

InvitingMattress · 01/07/2025 09:36

How long have you been seeing him? I mean, surely his financial issues later in life are his future problem, not yours? No need to live together or merge finances.

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KateMiskin · 01/07/2025 09:37

I wouldnt live together and definiitely not merge finances. Just carry on having fun.

NuffSaidSam · 01/07/2025 09:37

Now having written this out I realise my concerns are ridiculous

Came to say this, but you got there yourself OP.

Basically he's a wonderful guy who doesn't own a house.

I wouldn't merge my finances with his, but for everything else it sounds delightful.

thevassal · 01/07/2025 09:38

Why would not having kids raise eyebrows?
Do you think childfree women are a red flag too? If you don't have kids you should just stay single all your life?

OneNaiceSnail · 01/07/2025 09:38

Well you’ve kind of answered your own question. If he was spoiled or lazy or entitled due to knowing he’s getting a large windfall, then that would be one thing. But by all accounts he sounds like a lovely man. I guess some people would prefer a man to have a bit more drive in getting himself ahead at life off his own merit. But honestly, if it were the other way round and you had to opportunity to cruise comfortably through life with the guarantee you had a safety net at the end, would you really choose to make it more stressful just for the sake of it, or enjoy it like he has chosen to?

PeggyMitchellsCameo · 01/07/2025 09:39

Well he could have a big fat pension and be a big fat player.
He could have a string of properties and a string of dysfunctional relatives who dominate his time.
In his case, I think it’s fine that he knows an inheritance will come his way. It is significant, as you say, even if some if it is spent on care. He doesn’t sound entitled or spoilt, he is just used to looking out for himself.
Of course, there are lots of threads on here about men looking for a nurse with a purse, but that’s not the case here.
On paper, he has wealth in the pipeline.
He sounds lovely. He’s not asked for your bank details or to be a be a beneficiary of your pension.
Just keep enjoying his company.

PutThe · 01/07/2025 09:41

He's not one to throw back if you would like a relationship that continues to be relatively low key, doesn't involve cohabiting or any financial merger.

If that is actually something you want then no, you may not be compatible.

SilenceInside · 01/07/2025 09:41

As long as you are aware of his financial issues, which you are, then I really don't see the problem with continuing in this relationship. Which I think you've realised yourself by writing your first post!

sandyhappypeople · 01/07/2025 09:42

He sounds great to be honest, there’s something to be said for just working to support yourself while focusing on enjoying and living life, too many people put stock in fancy cars, big houses etc, progression, but that’s not really what brings happiness, it can be a stressful way to live..

if he makes you happy, then don’t worry about the future or what other people think, watch out for any clues that he may be wanting you to support him now or in the future, but if he is just happy to amble along financially to maintain a decent work/life balance there isn’t anything wrong with that, it’s just different to what a lot of people focus on.

stop overthinking it and just live for the now, if you have no intention of having children then you have nothing to lose by being with him!

2dogsandabudgie · 01/07/2025 09:44

He sounds lovely. None of us know what's around the corner so just enjoy it.

orangewasp · 01/07/2025 09:45

I think he sounds great. As long as he pays his way and isn't expecting you to keep him then you're onto a winner!

honeypancake · 01/07/2025 09:47

He sounds lovely and supportive. You are not looking for someone to depend financially on , and equally he doesn't seem to be depending on your finances. He is just wired differently when it comes to finances and prefers to live life and spend money on life's joys. If done responsibly, nothing wrong with that! Some people have huge savings and houses but haven't really lived the life as a result, which often makes them miserable and unpleasant to be around.
Just enjoy it now, he may support you in tons of other ways even down the road if and when you do decide to progress things further.

gsiftpoffu · 01/07/2025 09:57

Don't live together and don't merge finances.

dontcryformeargentina · 01/07/2025 10:09

He is great. I’d say a rare specimen.You won’t find better on dating apps. Just don’t merge finances

MiloMinderbinder925 · 01/07/2025 10:14

I know very few people in healthy relationships and we have a large divorce rate in the UK, so I'd be wary about relying on other people's opinions.

If he's a decent, kind, considerate, thoughtful man, which he sounds like, I would continue to enjoy his company.

IjustbelieveinMe · 01/07/2025 10:14

He sounds like a nice bloke, don’t overthink things. Live in the present, enjoy it, carry on living by yourself, just be.

FrenchandSaunders · 01/07/2025 10:17

I think there's a lot to be said for working enough to pay your way and enjoy life, rather than working flat out seeking more and more and missing out on the way.
He sounds fab!

SaturdayDream · 01/07/2025 10:25

I’ve came across a lot of men like this. My ex was very similar but he did own his own home. I find they are so set in their ways that they never make progress with relationships.

MovingSwiftlyOn · 01/07/2025 10:35

Nobody’s perfect OP! I think there’s a good chance you would regret dropping him for the reasons you’ve given.

Sandy420 · 01/07/2025 10:38

Don't marry him and don't merge finances. Beyond that, have a great time. There's nothing wrong with not having kids.

CreationNat1on · 01/07/2025 10:38

He sounds like very pleasant company. How long are you seeing him?

He may not want to merge finances either, he probably likes that you won't be eyeing up his future castle thinking it will support you too.

WhereYouLeftIt · 01/07/2025 10:40

"I haven't really asked, but I suspect his retirement plans are mostly based on an anticipated inheritance."

Not just his retirement plans, I expect it will also have shaped the choices he has made - for example to do "interesting work" rather than take on less interesting but better paid work, and to "only [work] enough to keep the wolf from the door and pay for his trips etc". Knowing he had substantial money coming his way later has actually allowed him to be less acquisitive. This anticipated inheritance has, effectively, shaped him into the man he is today. The man you are comfortable with.

The only problem is that an anticipated inheritance may not become an actual inheritance. His parents' care may be eye-wateringly expensive and burn through it all, or one parent could suddenly become addicted to gambling, they could become targets for fraudsters, one could die and the survivor remarry and the inheritance changes direction - there are a myriad ways it could not happen. (Can you tell I'm a believer in never counting my chickens before they hatch?) And should that happen, he's going to have to come up with an alternative retirement plan. That could be working more (it sounds possible for him to do so), or that could be relying on you.

Bottom line, he sounds good for you. You are alive to a possible downside, but even cautious me considers the chances of that downside coming into being are relatively small. It's just something to bear in mind, but not concern yourself with too much. So crack on, and enjoy your relationship!

Wayetblue · 01/07/2025 10:41

Interesting, thank you.

This is a drip feed, but I left it out because I know (suspect) it makes a difference, but feel like it shouldn't?

He's 5'3" (possibly five foot 2 and a half!), I'm 5'7", we make an odd looking couple. That definitely shouldn't matter, but sometimes it does.

He lives with his parents. He has moved out previously, but returned following a realtionship break up during lockdown .His parents, who are lovely, like having him around and his father's health is poor so he helps his mum quite a lot. He has no plans to move out again because the arrangement works for all of them and because it gives him financial freedom. Again, that wouldn't be good in someone you were hoping to have DC with, but I'm not sure it matters in someone to have adventures with in middle age - could even be a good thing giving him time and money to spend on said adventure..

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