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Lovely man, who on the face of it doesn't have a lot going for him.

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Wayetblue · 01/07/2025 09:28

Bear with me and I'll try and explain.

I'm a middle aged woman, financially and practically independent. I don't "need" a man and tbh in many ways prefer life without one, I certainly wasn't looking for one.

Then I met this man through a sport. One of many things I took up to "rebuild" and create this independent life for myself.

He's also middle aged, a bit younger than me, never married, no kids (which whilst may raise eyebrows has its pluses!) does some interesting work, but only works enough to keep the wolf from the door and pay for his trips etc, doesn't plan for the future or own his home, for example. He has a good single lifestyle, nice car and holidays, and pays his way, but he's not well set up. But I'm not looking for a financially sound life partner to.e.g. have a family with.

So, there's the cons. On the plus side, he's keen to see me, makes plans and sticks to them, completely reliable, i never feel anxious a out whether he'll call, doesnt play games, does loads of the "wife work", the admin of arranging a weekend away or a night out with friends. He has loads of ideas for fun things to do and makes them happen.

He manages to respect my independence and is happy for me to do things alone or with friends (including male friends) at the same time as letting me know he loves being with me. He manages to achieve that without ever making me feel bad for doing things without him, which may well be as it should be but I don't think that's always the case?

He's very supportive about anything I want to achieve and being with him is just comfortable. We have fun together and do interesting things, but doing "nothing" together is lovely too. He's also very kind to others. Through the sport we know some unusual people, e.g a young man with learning difficulties and some people with autism. He always goes out of his way to talk to those that others ignore, and include them in plans.

This weekend was the anniversary of a very difficult date for me. We went to a "thing" with a lot of mutual friends and aquaintances. It's what he loves, being with people, I find it more difficult, although I enjoy it once I'm there, I have to work at it, and this wasn't a good day for me, so I wasn't feeling great about it. We arrived together, he said some kind words and then we circulated seperately. It was all good, and every time I started to struggle he popped up by my shoulder to check on me, either chat with me for a bit or support the conversation I was having. It was like he was completely tuned into what I needed in that moment.

So, outwardly he's not a good catch, but things have been so good.

Now having written this out I realise my concerns are ridiculous, and he adds so much to my life, but I still think many on MN would think he's one to throw back because financially, I'm likely to carry the load, especially, as we approach old age/retirement.

I haven't really asked, but I suspect his retirement plans are mostly based on an anticipated inheritance. I don't love that about him, but it will be significant, even if his parent lives long and needs a lot of care,so I can kind of see why he might not worry about it, and the way he lives for the moment is one of the things that makes him good for me at this stage in life.

OP posts:
UrbanFan · 01/07/2025 14:49

I'm tall and my husband was a few inches shorter than me. Never an issue.

jay55 · 01/07/2025 14:50

Sounds like he happily pitches in, and does things unprompted. He’s living with his parents for mutual benefit, wouldn’t be my choice but if it works for them….
And you have your own place. You like him, if the conversation is good and you’re having a nice time there’s no need to stop.
And you can always change your mind later.

Im not much different, middle aged, never married, no kids, don’t own a home(well I do through inheritance, but that’s recent). While im not looking for love, I don’t think I’m a walking red flag.

UrbanFan · 01/07/2025 14:52

Do you know what. If you don't want him send him to me. A kind, considerate, well adjusted stable man who isn't looking to move in, but be a loving partner as and when. I'll have him.

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Flamingoknees · 01/07/2025 14:54

He sounds lovely, but I wouldn't marry him. Fine for a long term relationship with seperate finances. Also, no one can rely on an inheritance. It might all go to care costs, or even another spouse, if a parent were to be widowed, and then remarry.

ThisTicklishFatball · 01/07/2025 14:55

I went back to reread the OP's posts.

OP, it seems like you're making some harsh assumptions about him, and he has shared a lot of personal information with you without thinking about how it might affect him. Does this imply that he trusts you, and that his trust has been misplaced?

ipkissmyass · 01/07/2025 14:57

I haven’t read the full thread but I do find it a bit depressing that what sounds like a kind, supportive, attentive man who you’re having a great time with can be seen as ‘not having a lot going for him’ purely for his financial choices and height.

Look we’re allowed to like/dislike/get the ick/have dealbreakers that are personal to us. You obviously have an issue with his height and the way he lives so just own that. But he works and pays his way, he isn’t cock lodging or expecting things from you, he just has a different perspective on life and I find it unfair and quite judgemental/shallow to class him as having nothing going for him just because you differ. It’s quite strange to be thinking about retirement and living together at this early stage too.

Pluvia · 01/07/2025 15:21

His time management is completely different to mine. I'll think I've got coaching at 7pm, I'm not free tonight. He'll think well, I finish work at 5pm there's time for the cinema before training and training's over by 8:30 so we could go for dinner 😂

This and the fact that he 'spunked' (yuck) all the money he made in his short but remunerative career in the City has put me off him. He sounds relentless. The people I've known live this sort of non-stop, blow-it-all lifestyle have often turned out to have ADHD. Nothing wrong with that, of course, but it can make it hard to create a stable, grounded life. Now I come to think of it, a couple of those I'm thinking of have ended up living with their parents at various points. People who have the need to spend every hour with 'stuff' leave me feeling weary. Personally I like more balance between the inner life and the extrovert outer life.

You've talked about him coming on strong and things going faster than you were really ready for, so slow him down: he can come around once or twice a week and one day at the weekends. Tone down the emotional intensity until you feel the urge to

Enjoy him while it's fun, though personally the idea of having a man come round after dinner at his mum and dad's with a packet of biscuits or a bottle of cider doesn't seem particularly appealing, particularly with a teenager in the house. If he ceases to amuse and entertain and make you feel good then let him go. But don't let him move in, don't let him make your teen feel ousted and don't start picking up his bills.

Steelworks · 01/07/2025 15:22

People are saying that he earns well, but in the opening post, op implies he earns enough to get buy. Theres no mention that he has his own savings, pension etc, despite a good job in the past. He’s only paying a basic rate to his parents, so in theory, since 2020 he could easily have saved £30000+ (£1000 per month) but it doesn’t appear so.

Delphiniumandlupins · 01/07/2025 15:34

He sounds fabulous. (If you don't want him I'll grab him for my single friend.)

WhatATimeToBeAlive · 01/07/2025 15:43

I actually haven't seen his negatives in your post. No kids is a great thing!

MascaraGirl · 01/07/2025 16:04

I agree with the earlier poster who suggests his height could have seriously hampered his love life and this could explain the lack of marriage/children in his past (for those who are concerned about that)?

Loopytiles · 01/07/2025 16:18

Disagree with the poster suggesting that posters’ responses not in favour of dating this man would be different if he was a woman.

It can be difficult to maintain boundaries like not living or getting financially involved with a partner, once in love.

JLou08 · 01/07/2025 16:28

I only think his finances and living with his parents would be a concern if you wanted to live together in the future. As you don't I think it sounds like a great relationship.

JFDIYOLO · 01/07/2025 16:33

If it ain't broke, don't fix it!!!!

There is nothing to say thou shalt merge finances and move in together for it to be a relationship.

Focus on what it is, enjoy it and reinforce it. Why consider changing it?

Of course if one of you decides it's marriage and roses round the shared door or nothing, then that's another conversation.

CreationNat1on · 01/07/2025 17:07

He probably has a decent pension if he worked in the city in his 20s and 30s.

Mirabai · 01/07/2025 17:18

You've talked about him coming on strong and things going faster than you were really ready for, so slow him down: he can come around once or twice a week and one day at the weekends. Tone down the emotional intensity

Typical love bomb ADHD pattern (not diagnosing him btw, there are plenty of people who live this). They are faddish, like change and are themselves changeable. So they’re really, really into one thing, one job, one person; then they’re really, really into something/someone else. Which is why he’s never married. He’s never been really into one person for long enough. Rolling stone etc.

Mirabai · 01/07/2025 17:21

WinWhenTheyreSinging · 01/07/2025 14:17

Every middle aged man I know who doesn't have kids and was never married actually does have a glaring reason why they don't.

I can comfortably believe that his height will have hugely hampered his dating life. So many women wouldn't get past this (and if I'm honest, I'm probably one of them).

My view, for what it's worth, is that you don't need to make any decision about where the rest of your life is going anyway, OP. You're enjoying it now - just go with the flow. It's not like you're looking for someone to settle down and have children with, so while it suits you (both), chug on.

This is ridiculous. I know plenty of short married men and no single ones. Two of my best friends are married to short men.

Mirabai · 01/07/2025 17:24

ipkissmyass · 01/07/2025 14:57

I haven’t read the full thread but I do find it a bit depressing that what sounds like a kind, supportive, attentive man who you’re having a great time with can be seen as ‘not having a lot going for him’ purely for his financial choices and height.

Look we’re allowed to like/dislike/get the ick/have dealbreakers that are personal to us. You obviously have an issue with his height and the way he lives so just own that. But he works and pays his way, he isn’t cock lodging or expecting things from you, he just has a different perspective on life and I find it unfair and quite judgemental/shallow to class him as having nothing going for him just because you differ. It’s quite strange to be thinking about retirement and living together at this early stage too.

On the other hand you could argue it’s depressing that a financially feckless short arse is deemed to have a lot going for him because he’s friendly and outgoing.

2024onwardsandup · 01/07/2025 17:31

Mirabai · 01/07/2025 17:24

On the other hand you could argue it’s depressing that a financially feckless short arse is deemed to have a lot going for him because he’s friendly and outgoing.

how is he financially feckless? He might be but from what it sounds he’s recognised that long term
hell be covered by a substantial inheritance - so why would he make sacrifices to earn more if he doesn’t need to?

SayLaveee · 01/07/2025 17:42

2024onwardsandup · 01/07/2025 17:31

how is he financially feckless? He might be but from what it sounds he’s recognised that long term
hell be covered by a substantial inheritance - so why would he make sacrifices to earn more if he doesn’t need to?

I guess because anything could happen to that inheritance, nobody knows what might be around the corner.
And its a bit shallow, in the sense that all he seems to have done with his life is "have a good time". Don't get me wrong, that sounds like fun. But even actual millionaires often want to do something, whether that's throw heart and soul into building a community project, or become a carpenter, or go and teach on the other side of the world, or something, you know? Just so in your life, you're actually working towards a feeling of achievement and like you left your mark on the world in some way.

independentfriend · 01/07/2025 19:04

Shape the relationship to work for you both. It looks like sharing finances doesn't work for you - that's not a compulsory part of a relationship.

You may need to discuss cost of trips / meals out / holidays and pick things that suit your individual budgets. You can be clear that you're not sure you'll ever want to live together so he's not working with an expectation of moving in with you for free.

onehorserace · 01/07/2025 19:34

If you are saying he could be gay , how is your sex life?

ipkissmyass · 01/07/2025 19:57

Mirabai · 01/07/2025 17:24

On the other hand you could argue it’s depressing that a financially feckless short arse is deemed to have a lot going for him because he’s friendly and outgoing.

Financially feckless…perhaps a bit but it’s not impacting the op.
Short arse…just rude and nasty really. Nobody can help their height.
Personally I think being friendly, outgoing and kind are pretty positive character traits in a partner but I guess this is Aibu where most people are unpleasant so maybe that’s not the case here.

coxesorangepippin · 01/07/2025 19:59

The living with parents would put me off, tbh

ElizaJ74 · 01/07/2025 20:19

He sounds wonderful OP
He's clearly a grown up who can look after himself. I think it's great that he's secure enough to happily live with his parents and be on hand should they need him.
I'd like to think my kids would always view my home as theirs should they want or need to.
You've noted so many great reasons as to why you like him. Get out of your own head, he's a catch and clearly you're very compatible. Enjoy your short king! 😁