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Lovely man, who on the face of it doesn't have a lot going for him.

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Wayetblue · 01/07/2025 09:28

Bear with me and I'll try and explain.

I'm a middle aged woman, financially and practically independent. I don't "need" a man and tbh in many ways prefer life without one, I certainly wasn't looking for one.

Then I met this man through a sport. One of many things I took up to "rebuild" and create this independent life for myself.

He's also middle aged, a bit younger than me, never married, no kids (which whilst may raise eyebrows has its pluses!) does some interesting work, but only works enough to keep the wolf from the door and pay for his trips etc, doesn't plan for the future or own his home, for example. He has a good single lifestyle, nice car and holidays, and pays his way, but he's not well set up. But I'm not looking for a financially sound life partner to.e.g. have a family with.

So, there's the cons. On the plus side, he's keen to see me, makes plans and sticks to them, completely reliable, i never feel anxious a out whether he'll call, doesnt play games, does loads of the "wife work", the admin of arranging a weekend away or a night out with friends. He has loads of ideas for fun things to do and makes them happen.

He manages to respect my independence and is happy for me to do things alone or with friends (including male friends) at the same time as letting me know he loves being with me. He manages to achieve that without ever making me feel bad for doing things without him, which may well be as it should be but I don't think that's always the case?

He's very supportive about anything I want to achieve and being with him is just comfortable. We have fun together and do interesting things, but doing "nothing" together is lovely too. He's also very kind to others. Through the sport we know some unusual people, e.g a young man with learning difficulties and some people with autism. He always goes out of his way to talk to those that others ignore, and include them in plans.

This weekend was the anniversary of a very difficult date for me. We went to a "thing" with a lot of mutual friends and aquaintances. It's what he loves, being with people, I find it more difficult, although I enjoy it once I'm there, I have to work at it, and this wasn't a good day for me, so I wasn't feeling great about it. We arrived together, he said some kind words and then we circulated seperately. It was all good, and every time I started to struggle he popped up by my shoulder to check on me, either chat with me for a bit or support the conversation I was having. It was like he was completely tuned into what I needed in that moment.

So, outwardly he's not a good catch, but things have been so good.

Now having written this out I realise my concerns are ridiculous, and he adds so much to my life, but I still think many on MN would think he's one to throw back because financially, I'm likely to carry the load, especially, as we approach old age/retirement.

I haven't really asked, but I suspect his retirement plans are mostly based on an anticipated inheritance. I don't love that about him, but it will be significant, even if his parent lives long and needs a lot of care,so I can kind of see why he might not worry about it, and the way he lives for the moment is one of the things that makes him good for me at this stage in life.

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Wayetblue · 01/07/2025 10:45

SaturdayDream · 01/07/2025 10:25

I’ve came across a lot of men like this. My ex was very similar but he did own his own home. I find they are so set in their ways that they never make progress with relationships.

What do you mean by progress? He has definitely driven this. It became "serious" much more quickly than I would have pushed for. I don't feel manipulated because I've loved it too, but it has been a surprise how quickly I went from I'm loving life on my own to barely a day goes by without seeing him.

We won't ever live together, but I was clear I'd never live with another man well before we met. I also told him that long before we got together and again since.

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onehorserace · 01/07/2025 10:48

would you ever want to live together?

Wayetblue · 01/07/2025 10:51

onehorserace · 01/07/2025 10:48

would you ever want to live together?

No, I was clear in my mind I'd never live with another man even before we met. I told him that long before we got together (knew each other for about 18m before anything happened) and have told him again since.

I think that suits him as much as it suits me. Although he does spend a lot of time at my house, so he does get the benefit of my homeownership without any responsibility for it!

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PeggyMitchellsCameo · 01/07/2025 10:52

I’m going to be honest, the height difference would put me off!!!
The living with the parents thing is entirely different to what I envisaged - I thought he had his own place. It shouldn’t matter if he’s a nice guy, but it would put me off I’m afraid.

Wayetblue · 01/07/2025 10:53

PeggyMitchellsCameo · 01/07/2025 10:52

I’m going to be honest, the height difference would put me off!!!
The living with the parents thing is entirely different to what I envisaged - I thought he had his own place. It shouldn’t matter if he’s a nice guy, but it would put me off I’m afraid.

Yes I know. There's no explaining it, but...

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CreationNat1on · 01/07/2025 10:56

It sounds like a failure to launch situation. Only moved out when moving in with someone, failed to live independently. He sounds quite cossetted. If you like his genial company, then his lack of independence doesn't really matter.

I think, over time, his lack of responsibilities and lack of life experience might bother me. It's not really even at the moment, if you are hosting all the time.

Weepixie · 01/07/2025 10:56

Op, he lives with his parents, he’s shorter than you.

These mean absolutely nothing in the grand scheme of things and I think you’d regret throwing away what sounds like a lovely relationship because of the above.

RaininSummer · 01/07/2025 10:57

He sounds lovely and it's not as though he doesn't work or do anything productive is it. Maybe his priorities are right.

Sasssquatch · 01/07/2025 10:57

Maybe if we were all a bit more focused on enjoying here and now rather than worrying about some abstract future that may never happen we’d be happier, more giving people.

ginasevern · 01/07/2025 10:59

Do not move him into your home, do not merge finances and don't start lending him money or paying for everything. Otherwise as someone to have fun with, go on holiday with and meals out etc I really can't see the harm. I'm a widow and it's the sort of set up I wouldn't mind!

silkypyjamas · 01/07/2025 11:00

Do you fancy him?

DontMowMyMeadow · 01/07/2025 11:02

If it's any help, my DH is 4 inches shorter than me. It took some adjustment to my thinking at the beginning, but we're 37 years in now and I don't give it a moments thought.

CallIpswichNow · 01/07/2025 11:03

I think he sounds lovely. The stuff you read on here about how so many men treat their partners profoundly saddens me. This guy is kind and considerate, you like his company — excellent.

I’m your age OP, and I think culturally our generation was raised with certain expectations of what was desirable in a partner that didn’t always match healthy priorities. It can be freeing to chuck those out the window. There’s nothing wrong with an adult living with their parents if they are mature and functional in a wider sense. There is absolutely nothing wrong with a woman being taller than her male partner!

Pootles34 · 01/07/2025 11:06

I think that he lives with his parents is a massive plus for you personally, because you don't want to live with him! Another bloke might be pushing for that, but it doesn't sound like he will.

Enjoy it, he sounds great!

SayLaveee · 01/07/2025 11:08

You lost me at not having kids to be something to raise your eyebrows at.

He lost me at moving in with his parents following a breakup. Every time I've broken up I've found a new place to live and moved.

The only reason I would tolerate that in a partner is if the reason they moved in with their parents is because they did have kids and after splitting up were struggling with additional costs re maintenance etc

SayLaveee · 01/07/2025 11:09

I mean, what you're saying is he has no responsibilities and his parents pick up his living expenses.

Im sure he is lovely: I would be an absolute dream if I had no bills to pay and knew I had a massive inheritance coming to secure my future.
Literary anybody would.

Wayetblue · 01/07/2025 11:10

SayLaveee · 01/07/2025 11:08

You lost me at not having kids to be something to raise your eyebrows at.

He lost me at moving in with his parents following a breakup. Every time I've broken up I've found a new place to live and moved.

The only reason I would tolerate that in a partner is if the reason they moved in with their parents is because they did have kids and after splitting up were struggling with additional costs re maintenance etc

He moved back to his parents at a time when we weren't allowed to see anyone we didn't share a household with...

I see him not having children as a plus, but often on MN a middle-aged man who's never married or had kids is considered a red flag.

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Wayetblue · 01/07/2025 11:11

SayLaveee · 01/07/2025 11:09

I mean, what you're saying is he has no responsibilities and his parents pick up his living expenses.

Im sure he is lovely: I would be an absolute dream if I had no bills to pay and knew I had a massive inheritance coming to secure my future.
Literary anybody would.

Maybe, but does that make it a bad thing?

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Steelworks · 01/07/2025 11:12

There was another thread recently whereby caution was urged in a similar situation. Lots of comments about there’s nothing more loving than a man who courts a woman with her own house, money etc . Also how the woman was always paying for meals out etc, subsidising him (and therefore indirectly spending the kids inheritance).

Is he independent even though living at home, or is he very much dependent on mummy and daddy? You say he moved back after a relationship breakdown. Did he gave h it an own place prior to that, or did he always live at home (unless long term relationship). I get how the current set-up works for them all, but just be cautious, financially aware, and aware of potential live-bombing.

it sounds like he’s very much in the companion role, which suits you for now.

SayLaveee · 01/07/2025 11:12

Wayetblue · 01/07/2025 11:10

He moved back to his parents at a time when we weren't allowed to see anyone we didn't share a household with...

I see him not having children as a plus, but often on MN a middle-aged man who's never married or had kids is considered a red flag.

Okay, but that time was four years ago now.

Wayetblue · 01/07/2025 11:13

SayLaveee · 01/07/2025 11:12

Okay, but that time was four years ago now.

Yes. I've said he's stayed because it's working for all of them. It's unusual, I agree, but I'm not sure it's "bad"?

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Olika · 01/07/2025 11:14

As you are not looking for marriage and kids or even living together I think he is ok to be with as long as he treats you well and invests in two of you equally.

SayLaveee · 01/07/2025 11:15

Wayetblue · 01/07/2025 11:11

Maybe, but does that make it a bad thing?

You're the one who asked the question, ultimately its personal and you're the only one who can decide whether that's a bad thing.

I do think its a bad thing to essentially absolve yourself of any responsibility in your life, because you know your parents will deal with it all. Its a massive turn off for me. That's just me though. I would just watch out that later down the road, you dont end up in a situation where you want to actually build some kind of common plan or future, and it ends up clashing with his Peter Pan vibe.

UrbanFan · 01/07/2025 11:15

He sound perfect to me. All the fun of a lovely relationship with the responsibilities of being a couple. He retirement plans or otherwise are for him to manage not yours.

ZippyStork · 01/07/2025 11:15

Penny towers over Rod. No problem.
Life is short. Grab fun and laughter wherever you can. But, stick to your guns about not moving in together and, if he starts to borrow money, well... No. Be on alert for that.

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