Virginia Giuffre (TW: suicide)

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It’s being reported that Virginia Roberts Giuffre has died by suicide.

I hope Prince Andrew’s shady supporters won’t try to make hay from this. They’ve been revolting recently about her evident trauma.

i guess she had a relationship with Andrew and is on his side

Mar-a-Lago and Trump started off her descent into elite depravity.

A Maxwell accuser, who testified under the pseudonym "Jane," said Epstein took her to Mar-a-Lago to meet Trump when she was 14. It was around that time that Jane testified Epstein and Maxwell started sexually abusing her. Another accuser, who testified under the pseudonym "Kate," said Epstein and Maxwell would often namedrop Trump, among other famous friends.

www.businessinsider.com/mar-a-lago-hr-director-testifies-at-ghislaine-maxwell-trial-2021-12?op=1

Virginia had a deeply traumatic life, suffering multiple abuses over a prolonged timeframe. She blatantly was not effectively parented and from a young age was exploited by men. She did not learn appropriate resilience coping skills, self regulation or how to be a healthy human with healthy relationships. Unfortunately, the uncomfortable truth is that without the work she was probably not able to appropriately parent either. And there really has never been any indication, unless I’m wrong, that she put herself into long term counselling, sought parenting advice or tried to heal old wounds. Seeking justice is really only a tiny part of the process. And really she didn’t get very much justice. She was abused by many many more people. We don’t know what her husband is like. We do know that relationships start was not healthy as he was an escape mechanism. Often severely traumatised people are unable to have meaningful relationships with anyone. Uncomfortable but sadly true. We can not look away from lives absolute negatives because she was a justice fighter. For her on personal front. Means nothing. She was dealing with dark stuff.

I feel our Royal Family appear even grubbier than normal today. She was a disposal person to them, paid off to protect 'the firm'. Shameful.

It really isn’t.

Oh yeah. How this became Andrew and not others like Trump and Clinton I don’t know. Maybe smart enough not to allow pictures. Whatever. ‘Jane’ is a sad story. She testified in court. Basically her and her Mum desperate for fame. I put this squarely on the mother, Father’s death recent. We can make you famous honey. Awful. Lapse in parenting too. She’s a soap opera actress.

Oh well that’s all alright then. She’s on his side so she’s rubbishing a mother who died by suicide less than 24 hours ago. Got it.

This is sad. Poor woman and her children.

i read she was in renal failure

Not that I’m excusing anything someone may have done. But it was a civil case. It would have just resulted in money anyway. She probably got more money that and less trauma. Court cases are horrendous. For a victim of sexual assault or rape and abuse. Oh absolutely beyond comprehension. She was obviously fragile. The affect would have been awful,

So sad, she was abused,brutalised,exploited,trafficked and discredited by avaricious predatory brutes. Unfortunately she endured too much trauma.

I don't believe for one second the queen paid VG off to protect a vulnerable women from further trauma. It was all about saving one of the worthless parasites born to rule over us.

Don’t be stupid.

PA might be predatory, foolish, promiscuous etc but he’s not a “nonce”.

VG was young when this all allegedly occurred but she was over the age of consent and she wasn’t childlike. Read your dictionary definitions of paeophilia.

i bet most mumsnetters were having regular sex at her age. The question is if she were trafficked and did PA know she was trafficked?

I lost all respect for VG when she took her nice fat handouts. Turns out her silence could be bought and that brings her integrity under question.

Course she didn’t. But it was a civil case and settlement was always on the cards. For her preferrable to a court case to be honest. As in Virginia. Lawyers would have pulled her apart. But the royals also wouldn’t have wanted things said in court.

Exactly this. Poor woman.

Trauma impacts every aspect of life,judgement,behaviour choices and unfortunately makes one high risk suicide. VG was from poor socioeconomic background and sure she accepted financial pay off. She probably thought it would help,and on a practicable level she needed money to get by (we all do). Impact of trauma is longitudinal and can result in poor behaviour,poor choices and high risk of dsh and suicide

Which to be honest we have no idea about. He may have thought she wanted to be with him. I mean deluded. But we don’t know anything at all. Because it was settled. We also don’t know anything about other powerful men. In reality on a human front Andrew may have been better off goi go to court. Not good for the family though. They settled to protect themselves. Not him. They settled to protect the jubilee form overshadowing too and also from the fact they knew at that time the Queen was reaching the end,

The police. Her family. Herself. It was all over the press.

She was ill, mentally ill.
She predicted her death just recently after being involved in a car accident the police claimed as not being serious yet she manifested extensive bruising.
She had every intention of committing suicide. She gave notice.
So sad but inevitable without active healthcare intervention.

Consent and circumstance is key. Even if most mn were sexually active it wasn’t for older men accessed by private jet
Nice fat handouts? She didn’t stage a cash for crash scam, she was trafficked and was given a settlement in a civil case

Yes, to suicide is to leave a lasting horrid cloud over one's children. It is so selfish. Virginia apologised a couple of weeks ago for not telling the truth about injuries sustained in a car accident...supposedly to be seen by her family.
She was separated from her daughters and husband. It has not been reported as to why.
She was mistreated by Epstein, she was mistreated by her father who drove her to work for Epstein, she became a recruter of girls for Epstein.
She got her story wrong about some men.
She settled out of court for money quickly with PA.
Her life as a young woman was far from ideal.
We will never know why she committed suicide.
I hope her girls are not left thinking they were in any way to blame.

She said she was in renal failure on her insta post

Her poor children and ex husband, they must be feeling horrendous. Even if they were right to limit contact due to her difficult behaviour or to protect themselves, they must feel guilt ridden.

I truly hope she didn't falsely accuse PA as that would be so damaging for her children.

And all the men and women including Ghislaine Maxwell who exploited and manipulated young girls like her, they have blood on their hands. Has the extent of who was involved in this systemic trafficking and abuse ever been revealed to the public?

That’s an exact copy of a post up thread.

I had no idea that she was a recruiter of girls for Epstein. Is this true?