Free Luigi - crazy

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The dark fandom behind CEO murder suspect Luigi Mangione - BBC News

this is crazy, but would it happen in UK?

*And as for Jo Cox’s killer, he was indeed considered to be a terrorist.

https://amp.theguardian.com/politics/2016/nov/23/thomas-mair-trial-and-the-question-of-terrorism-jo-cox

Exactly. This argument is tiresome.

There was an article recently about some poor woman who had been ill for months and labelled a drug seeker by her GP surgery to the extent she was removed as a patient.

She eventually went to hospital and was diagnosed with a painful terminal cancer.

I could absolutely see someone in her position doing similar in the UK when our poor excuse for healthcare leaves someone in such a state until nothing more can be done for them.

I know i would want payback if it were me.

I don’t think Luigi mangioni is guilty. The time line doesn’t match up. The coats don’t match. His bag somehow was both ditched in Central Park and found on his person

It's worth noting as well.. a woman on the NYC subway was literally set on fire whilst she was sleeping, that man has been charged with murder. Does that not count as an act of terrorism? Or does it not matter because she was a woman and not a rich CEO?
They're playing a very dodgy game here and if you actually look into it, nothing with Luigi adds up

There was also the guy who murdered black people praying in a church, he actively wanted to start a race war, yet apparently not terrorism.

It's worth noting as well.. a woman on the NYC subway was literally set on fire whilst she was sleeping, that man has been charged with murder. Does that not count as an act of terrorism? Or does it not matter because she was a woman and not a rich CEO?

I would not expect that to be terrorism, no. Terrorism imo does not just mean just any killing, no matter how horrific, however again the definition varies by State and can be somewhat vague. Unless the killer had a political, religious or ideological motive then I personally would not consider that to be terrorism. Of course it’s possible that he did. I don’t know yet know enough information about the killer on the subway.

Mangione comes from one of the wealthiest families in Maryland. He went to expensive private schools and has had every financial advantage. He has never nor would he ever have gone without health care in his entire life. He is an overprivileged, bored rich kid who thought (and still does by all reports) that there would be no consequences for his actions.

Robin Hood characters are always seen more favourable & he’s also attractive which encourages fans.

The photo of him in the orange suit surrounded by police was like something from a Hollywood film.

How is he seemingly behaving so cool, as with if he gets a charge of terrorism, this could mean the death penalty? I wonder who else is behind him, behind the scenes. It's very intriguing.

I do think it’s a slippery slope to think “meh” when the victim is not a good guy. After all our actions/consumption can ruin other peoples lives in poorer countries.

The superman perp walk

Just fuels the fanboys!

I think it’s part of human nature to think that bad things should happen to bad people. It doesn’t happen very often.

I think it’s part of human nature to think that bad things should happen to bad people.

So much of the West is bad?

France and Russia would agree

I don’t see it as a fudge. I think the laws of the land should absolutely be tested regularly in court and put to a jury. They can decide whether leniency is justified or not.

Laws are made and implemented with consent of the people abiding by them. They’re nuanced and subject to change as society and circumstances change.

I've never had to face the horror of being denied treatment to save mine or someone I love, on the basis I'm broke and have private health insurance with extortionate deductions or pre existing.

If I had, then I'd be cheering for Luigi and calling him a hero.

As it happens, I do have empathy for what that might be like, so I do believe Luigi is a hero and should be released and treated as the hero he is.

Is it ok to kill someone who abused my dc then? Would I be a hero for retaliating?

Its already resulted in minor changes, and more people are talking about it, so yes.

Did I ever say it was ok to shoot someone? You are just incredibly naive to think people can influence the government and big corporations with some big signs and a few chants

Don't see why not.

This. That man has killed thousands. But had this not happened nothing would have happened to him. People saying there are other ways to secure change. Really? I don't think some people realise about how these super rich and powerful people run the world and the deck is very very firmly stacked against the rest of us. This inequality in money and power has been growing for decades, and once that the balance is tipped, what happens historically? The disadvantaged rise up and revolt, violently. To be honest it's not something I relish, but it's a long time coming.

This mother did and spent 4 years in prison, was done for manslaughter, not murder. I have no issue with this.

Well it wasn’t judged as ok since she went to jail for 4 yrs…we either have a justice system or we don’t.