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I’m scared now I’ve realised this

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Pickandmixmood · 29/10/2024 11:00

I was thinking that the US public wouldn’t vote for Trump now that it is so apparent he is such a fascist. It’s terrifying to realise that they already know that and that is why they are going to vote for him.
I’m scared for the world.

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TooBigForMyBoots · 31/10/2024 21:32

lifeturnsonadime · 31/10/2024 21:30

I'm not hysterical (note the sexism) about trans women. There's the 'you people' again. Very telling how much women who do not kowtow to male demands are addressed.

I'm determined that females should have fairness in sport.

That means all male bodies (trans women or any other male) have no place in female sport. That's fairness.

Once one male competes there is unfairness for females, he is more likely to win, but even if he doesn't he has unfair physical advantage which could hurt the females. Once he competes at least one female is displaced.

Trans women have the option to compete in their sex class.

Trans men (females) can compete with other females so long as they are not taking testosterone which has the side affect of being performance enhancing and is a banned substance for other females.

So you can do one with your 'anti trans' nonsense.

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I'm determined that women should have bodily autonomy and fairness in society.

Trump is anti those things.

lifeturnsonadime · 31/10/2024 21:33

TooBigForMyBoots · 31/10/2024 21:32

I'm determined that women should have bodily autonomy and fairness in society.

Trump is anti those things.

And I'm anti Trump!

I just understand why some women in the USA are despairing with the Biden/ Harris administration.

lifeturnsonadime · 31/10/2024 21:35

Women don't get fairness under the democrats either because they're so ideological that they've lost their minds when it comes to identity politics and are removing women's rights too.

What a time to be a woman : (

izimbra · 31/10/2024 21:46

lifeturnsonadime · 31/10/2024 21:30

I'm not hysterical (note the sexism) about trans women. There's the 'you people' again. Very telling how much women who do not kowtow to male demands are addressed.

I'm determined that females should have fairness in sport.

That means all male bodies (trans women or any other male) have no place in female sport. That's fairness.

Once one male competes there is unfairness for females, he is more likely to win, but even if he doesn't he has unfair physical advantage which could hurt the females. Once he competes at least one female is displaced.

Trans women have the option to compete in their sex class.

Trans men (females) can compete with other females so long as they are not taking testosterone which has the side affect of being performance enhancing and is a banned substance for other females.

So you can do one with your 'anti trans' nonsense.

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There's plenty of unfairness in sports that doesn't seem to animate people in the way that the existence of transgender women does. For example a third of Team GB at the Paris Olympics was privately educated when only 7% of the UK population is.

Are you 'determined' that women who haven't had access to a privileged education should also have an equal chance in sports, or is this very much bigger and more entrenched problem less interesting to you because it doesn't give you a chance to enjoy a bit of 'feminist' grandstanding in regard to a tiny, beleaguered and marginalised group?

At least you know you're on the same side as that rapist Trump in regard to transgender women.

izimbra · 31/10/2024 21:51

lifeturnsonadime · 31/10/2024 21:35

Women don't get fairness under the democrats either because they're so ideological that they've lost their minds when it comes to identity politics and are removing women's rights too.

What a time to be a woman : (

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'They're so ideological'

What does that even mean?

'They've lost their minds when it comes to identity politics'.

How?

Is this about the Democrat party refusing to legislate transwomen out of existence?

lifeturnsonadime · 31/10/2024 21:51

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lifeturnsonadime · 31/10/2024 21:53

izimbra · 31/10/2024 21:51

'They're so ideological'

What does that even mean?

'They've lost their minds when it comes to identity politics'.

How?

Is this about the Democrat party refusing to legislate transwomen out of existence?

Stoping males from competing in sport reserved for females doesn't stop trans women from 'existing'. Stop being so melodramatic.

They can still play sport with their own sex class.

And even if they don't want to they still exist.

lifeturnsonadime · 31/10/2024 21:55

And as for what is 'ideological' that's easy it's basing laws on an unproved belief system. Because that is what transgenderism is.

No one is the opposite sex they can only claim they 'feel' like something.

It's ideological and it harms women girls and children.

Mumtobabyhavoc · 31/10/2024 21:57

Deja321 · 31/10/2024 21:05

Biological males should never be allowed to compete in women's sports. We have sex categories for a reason

Oh, do start your own thread.

Mumtobabyhavoc · 31/10/2024 22:00

lifeturnsonadime · 31/10/2024 21:55

And as for what is 'ideological' that's easy it's basing laws on an unproved belief system. Because that is what transgenderism is.

No one is the opposite sex they can only claim they 'feel' like something.

It's ideological and it harms women girls and children.

Off you go, before someone drops a house on you.

Mumtobabyhavoc · 31/10/2024 22:01

lifeturnsonadime · 31/10/2024 21:53

Stoping males from competing in sport reserved for females doesn't stop trans women from 'existing'. Stop being so melodramatic.

They can still play sport with their own sex class.

And even if they don't want to they still exist.

Do you frequently pop in to derail threads?

lifeturnsonadime · 31/10/2024 22:03

Mumtobabyhavoc · 31/10/2024 22:01

Do you frequently pop in to derail threads?

I'm not derailing the thread.

Where people are alleging that the Democrats are the saviours of women I'm pointing out that they are not.

This is relevant to this thread. If you don't like it you can scroll right on.

TooBigForMyBoots · 31/10/2024 22:05

lifeturnsonadime · 31/10/2024 21:33

And I'm anti Trump!

I just understand why some women in the USA are despairing with the Biden/ Harris administration.

Only children believe in perfect happy ever afters.

The US has a choice between Harris and Trump. Who do you think they should go with @lifeturnsonadime ? Harris or Trump?

lifeturnsonadime · 31/10/2024 22:06

And are you going to throw some ire at Izimbra for their 'trans derail' or is it just because I've raised something inconvenient to the Trump BAD Harris GOOD narrative?

I'm sick of the fact that people don't want to discuss WHY people are fed up with the Democrats. They're not perfect. If they were Trump wouldn't have a cat in hells chance with his track record.

This is a serious problem for the left, unless they start addressing reasons why people are not satisfied then they will continue to lose votes. It's easy to blame the other party, less easy to employ a little introspection.

lifeturnsonadime · 31/10/2024 22:08

TooBigForMyBoots · 31/10/2024 22:05

Only children believe in perfect happy ever afters.

The US has a choice between Harris and Trump. Who do you think they should go with @lifeturnsonadime ? Harris or Trump?

Harris.

I just get sick to the teeth of the fact that the left can never be criticised. It's at the point that it is a threat to democracy. Blaming everyone for being right wing/ pro trump without looking at reasons for voter dissatisfaction can result in lost elections.

Mumtobabyhavoc · 31/10/2024 22:08

lifeturnsonadime · 31/10/2024 22:03

I'm not derailing the thread.

Where people are alleging that the Democrats are the saviours of women I'm pointing out that they are not.

This is relevant to this thread. If you don't like it you can scroll right on.

Angry Scream GIF by avariksaga

Oh, do go on then.

lifeturnsonadime · 31/10/2024 22:09

Mumtobabyhavoc · 31/10/2024 22:08

Oh, do go on then.

LOL Pot Kettle.

Or do you agree that women shouldn't have fair sport Mumtobabyhavoc?

NoisyDenimShaker · 31/10/2024 22:25

ruethewhirl · 30/10/2024 10:29

Oh, she is off her trolley. Never stopped referring to him as 'President Trump'. To think that someone like that could ever be in any position of power is chilling.

In America, former presidents are always referred to as President Lastname, no matter how long ago they left office.

lifeturnsonadime · 31/10/2024 22:27

Right so I've had a post deleted.

To clarify that post said (paraphrased) yes there is other unfairness in sport but that doesn't mean that females should have to accept males in our sport.

I think I must have upset someone because I pointed out that trans women are male. I may have posted men in the context that women should not have to compete against any men rather than male and didn't check my wording back.

When that comes to sport it is very important. Women deserve fairness. Unbelievable that Mumsnet has deleted this post. I'm going to bow out now because I don't want to have my account suspended for daring to speak out for women and the fact that I have had a post deleted means that I'm upsetting someone who doesn't want these things stated.

So much for free speech.

lifeturnsonadime · 31/10/2024 22:29

And final post - this (above) is exactly what I'm talking about.

The left as currently embodied by Harris doesn't allow free speech. Doesn't allow us to state things that are factually correct.

This authoritarianism and lack of willingness to engage with other valid viewpoints is offering an open goal to Trump.

Oodiks · 31/10/2024 22:33

izimbra · 31/10/2024 21:46

There's plenty of unfairness in sports that doesn't seem to animate people in the way that the existence of transgender women does. For example a third of Team GB at the Paris Olympics was privately educated when only 7% of the UK population is.

Are you 'determined' that women who haven't had access to a privileged education should also have an equal chance in sports, or is this very much bigger and more entrenched problem less interesting to you because it doesn't give you a chance to enjoy a bit of 'feminist' grandstanding in regard to a tiny, beleaguered and marginalised group?

At least you know you're on the same side as that rapist Trump in regard to transgender women.

I think what a lot of British people don't understand is how many scholarships are based on sports here in the US, so it's not just about sport, but about opportunity as well. Every time a transwoman wins a sports scholarship, a girl loses out.

poetryandwine · 01/11/2024 09:01

Sure, KH and the Dems are far from perfect.

But right now KH is running against someone described by many serious historians and his own former chief of staff as a fascist in the making. Over 90 of America’s most respected conservative Republican politicians are publicly supporting Harris, only because they regard Trump as a threat to democracy and possibly worse.

And just because Trump has no tolerance for trans people doesn’t mean he has any respect for women. Never forget that he packed the Supreme Court to overturn Roe v Wade and women are dying as a result.

The election is over in 4 days. The eternal debate over gender isn’t going away. Can’t we put it aside until after the election?

independencefreedom · 01/11/2024 09:44

lifeturnsonadime · 31/10/2024 22:06

And are you going to throw some ire at Izimbra for their 'trans derail' or is it just because I've raised something inconvenient to the Trump BAD Harris GOOD narrative?

I'm sick of the fact that people don't want to discuss WHY people are fed up with the Democrats. They're not perfect. If they were Trump wouldn't have a cat in hells chance with his track record.

This is a serious problem for the left, unless they start addressing reasons why people are not satisfied then they will continue to lose votes. It's easy to blame the other party, less easy to employ a little introspection.

It's pretty simple

The Dems aren't perfect, Trump is less perfect
Harris isn't all good, Trump is a lot worse

independencefreedom · 01/11/2024 09:46

lifeturnsonadime · 31/10/2024 22:03

I'm not derailing the thread.

Where people are alleging that the Democrats are the saviours of women I'm pointing out that they are not.

This is relevant to this thread. If you don't like it you can scroll right on.

You are focussing on a single issue - start your own thread if you want to talk about that single issue

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