Can I get help this not sure if ds is taking advantage money wise I have included pics/run down

[Helpplease46]

I'm a bit worried ds it taking advantage of me. But I could be wrong.

Ds gets 405.40 a month due to pip. He sent me a screen shot saying I have only paid him 206.60 . He said I need to give him 22.60 daily until he gets pip again on the 2nd Aug. But his screen shot he sent me says money in from the 10th when I started giving him money from the 5th .

Can someone help me work it out. I have hand written the amounts from. The 5th . And also included ds screen shot.

I have learning difficulties so I find this stuff hard and ds is just over talking me and getting very stroppy and boarding on aggressive. So then I can't sort anything out .

He's also getting 58.00 a week of his social worker . Its his money regardless but I don't want to be giving him more money than he should be getting.

Going forward could you pay him 1 weeks worth of PIP every Monday? That would be easier to keep and track of, and should help prevent your son deliberately confusing you. You could even set this up as a standing order, so you don't have to make the payment each week.

I would try to sit down, both with your banking apps, and match up every single payment from the 5th. You show him what you sent, he finds that transaction on his bank.

Add it up together, step by step.

I certainly don't think you need to pay him 22.60 a day until the 2nd.

Even if you take out the last 2 days payments, the numbers still don’t match.

Regardless of anything OP

His playing you

You have given him his money

Tell him to show you from the 5th not the 10th

I really don't think all these posts with people arguing amongst themselves are helpful to the OP. She has said already that there is too much information to take in and she is overwhelmed. Arguing about the details isn't helpful to her.
Maybe also people just coming on to the thread could read the OP posts before commenting as there are lots if post going on about the £58 that social work give which has nothing to do with it.

They are her numbers, not his

His done it from the 10th and not the 5th

I imagine if he done it from the 5th, there numbers would match

The numbers are both OP’s and her DS’s.

The total of all the amounts on the sheet of paper since the 10th (ignoring the amounts on the 5th, 8th and 9th) equal £235.20. DS’s screenshot states £206.20 has gone his account since the 10th. So the amount OP says she have given him since the 10th does not match the amount that has entered his account since the 10th even if you take out the last 2 days payments. That is what I meant by the numbers matching.

OP I’m so glad you have posted here for advice. I can see how the numbers are overwhelming and it does look like your DS is trying to confuse you further. Unfortunately for him it looks like he has shot himself in the foot this time as you noticed he was only showing you payments from the 10th AND some posters have spotted that it looks like he was getting you to include the extra £58 a week in what you are paying him.

your payments to him should be £14.47 a day OR £101.35 a week

I think the £58 a week is relevant as the DS is stitching his mum up by adding that to the payments when he in fact gets that separately already.

I know what you are saying.

The last two amounts must be included though because I can not see any other way he would have 60p in his account as all the other amounts are whole numbers or 0.50.

The £29 difference is a mystery. However, if you include the £38 she said to ignore, it is possible to find a £67 discrepancy. I suspect the OP is confused about what amounts she has paid to other sources.

The last 2 amounts can’t be included. OP said DS sent the screenshot on Wednesday.

They have to be though. Or where else did the 0.20 come from? None of the other values combined will result in .20.

The transactions might have been made on Weds but just not shown as coming out of her account until today.

How can they be included when the screenshot was made before them? X post with your edit. It still means there’s a discrepancy though.

They might have shown in his account before they came out of hers.

Like when you make a payment at the shop, the money doesn't always show has coming out of your account instantly, but the shop still receives payment at the time it is made.

That still wouldn’t account for the difference.

Yes, there is a discrepency but it can't be £29 because there are no amounts that make up £29. But if you include the £38 she said to ignore that, that makes the discrepancy £67 which is possible to find.

The OP needs to go through all those payments and double check which ones were made to her son and which ones weren't.

Also, if it is the case that transactions show as coming out of her account ~2 days after they are made, it would mean the £155 on the 5th was actually received by him before that date as part of the previous month's DLA. Which means he might actually be right about her not sending him the full amount this month.

The 38.00 was paid into his account from me. But it was for a take away . That we all had. But we used his uber eats account. So I passed him the amount for the take away. Hence it still says I paid C. I went into my outgoing payments and wrote his name . That way it shows everything I paid him from the 5th till today .

Ok you need to include that amount as a money transfer into his account even though it is not part of his DLA payment.

Do you remember sending him £155 at the start of the month when you received the July DLA payment? Or was it leftover DLA money from June?

Every time I send him a payment he gets it straight away. His 4 weeks period does not end till 2nd August. He's already had more than his pips worth .

There's a transaction for £12.50 missing from your piece of paper and a couple of the dates are wrong. But it doesn't help us understand because it's before 10/07/24.

No money is left from June. His pip went in on the 5th of July. He was paid 155.00 on the 5th of July.

Ignore my paper...and just gp with the bank screen shots . If ut still indicates the same 12.50 missing then he's asked for extra money b4 it was due . The fact is I have still paid him way more than he's saying

Does money show as coming out of your account on the same day you sent it? Did you sent him £22.60 today?

But even using the bank screenshots, there is no date where £206.20 has been paid in his account in total after 10th July. Unless he's got a payment from somewhere else (like a refund).

Do you understand that we all know you paid that £155 on July 5th? We do get that.

Do you understand that he's showing a segment of his bank that doesn't include that £155?

So of course it what he's sent doesn't match everything you've paid. Because you're counting from the 5th (correctly) and he's counting from the 10th (incorrectly).

The only thing you have to work out is if he's made a genuine mistake and thinks you've only paid what he can see from the 10th onwards....or if he knows perfectly well that you've paid that earlier stuff and he's trying to con you.