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Can I get help this not sure if ds is taking advantage money wise I have included pics/run down

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Helpplease46 · 26/07/2024 11:31

I'm a bit worried ds it taking advantage of me. But I could be wrong.

Ds gets 405.40 a month due to pip. He sent me a screen shot saying I have only paid him 206.60 . He said I need to give him 22.60 daily until he gets pip again on the 2nd Aug. But his screen shot he sent me says money in from the 10th when I started giving him money from the 5th .

Can someone help me work it out. I have hand written the amounts from. The 5th . And also included ds screen shot.

I have learning difficulties so I find this stuff hard and ds is just over talking me and getting very stroppy and boarding on aggressive. So then I can't sort anything out .

He's also getting 58.00 a week of his social worker . Its his money regardless but I don't want to be giving him more money than he should be getting.

Can I get help this not sure if ds is taking advantage  money wise I have included pics/run down
Can I get help this not sure if ds is taking advantage  money wise I have included pics/run down
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Howdoesitworkagain · 26/07/2024 16:42

@Helpplease46

It’s confusing because nobody can solve the questions based on the information available.

You would expect the money leaving your account and the money going into his account to match up exactly. The photos show that it’s not matching up, and it’s not just because he’s set the date wrong.

The only way to solve this is:

  1. Get him to set his dates from 5th to 26th.
  2. The first thing to check is if his “money in” shows £412.70 when he’s set it to those dates. If it does - it matches your bank, great, he actually owes you a bit.
  3. If it doesn’t show £412.70 then your two accounts don’t match. The next thing you have to do is look at the list of transactions.
  4. You need to go down the list of transactions in your account and the list of transactions in his account and tick off all the ones that match.
  5. If you find transactions that don’t match, double check what they are - did you accidentally include something that wasn’t a payment to him? Has a payment gone missing?

Once you’ve got that far, you’ll either have your answer or you’ll have more information that we can help you with.

Take a deep breath, take your time, one step at a time.

BrumToTheRescue · 26/07/2024 16:43

If he’s over 16 he’s claiming PIP in his own right, so why are you still involved ?

Because OP is appointee.

Nobodywouldknow · 26/07/2024 16:43

he's done simlar before messing with days and stuff. His mate grassed him up and ds told him to shut

very concerning

PenguinLove1 · 26/07/2024 16:43

Can I suggest you open a second account in your name that you use only for his money? If you got his PIP paid into that one and sent money to him from there you wouldnt need to be working it out all the time as the only money in that account would belong to him?

Rosscameasdoody · 26/07/2024 16:47

OP PIP/DLA isn’t £404 every 4 weeks, it’s actually £434.20 - £108.55 a week.

Rosscameasdoody · 26/07/2024 16:54

BrumToTheRescue · 26/07/2024 16:43

If he’s over 16 he’s claiming PIP in his own right, so why are you still involved ?

Because OP is appointee.

That’s what l was trying to establish because appointeeship normally stops at age 16 when the child transfers from DLA to PIP paid in their own right. If he’s claiming PIP then he’s over 16 and would normally get the benefit paid directly to him unless OP reapplied for appointeeship.

BrumToTheRescue · 26/07/2024 16:54

Rosscameasdoody · 26/07/2024 16:47

OP PIP/DLA isn’t £404 every 4 weeks, it’s actually £434.20 - £108.55 a week.

Standard rate care element and standard rate mobility element is £405.40 every 4 weeks - £72.65 + £28.70 per week. As is mid rate care and low rate mobility DLA.

£434.20 is enhanced rate care PIP with no mobility component. As is high rate care DLA with no mobility component.

BrumToTheRescue · 26/07/2024 16:55

Rosscameasdoody · 26/07/2024 16:54

That’s what l was trying to establish because appointeeship normally stops at age 16 when the child transfers from DLA to PIP paid in their own right. If he’s claiming PIP then he’s over 16 and would normally get the benefit paid directly to him unless OP reapplied for appointeeship.

OP has said she is appointee. Those on PIP unable to manage the claim and monies themselves have an appointee.

For rising 16s transferring to PIP, parents are written to a few months prior to the child’s 16th birthday asking in an appointee is required.

pam290358 · 26/07/2024 16:56

PenguinLove1 · 26/07/2024 16:43

Can I suggest you open a second account in your name that you use only for his money? If you got his PIP paid into that one and sent money to him from there you wouldnt need to be working it out all the time as the only money in that account would belong to him?

One of the stipulations of appointeeship is that the benefit is paid into an account in appointees name, into which no other payments are made. So this should already be the case.

BrumToTheRescue · 26/07/2024 16:57

into which no other payments are made.

This is not the case. Payments can be made into an account that has other payments into it.

PoopedAndScooped · 26/07/2024 17:01

According to ur amounts wrote down you have given him £412.70 since the 5th untill today

On his calculations he has missed out the payments you paid him between the 5th and the 10th which was £177.50

So he thinks he has had £235.20 because he hasnt added the £177.50 between the 5th and the 10th

PoopedAndScooped · 26/07/2024 17:08

Edited my post

PoopedAndScooped · 26/07/2024 17:14

He needs to send you a screen shot from the 5th of July, not the 10th
His trying it on

Tulipsareredvioletsarebue · 26/07/2024 17:16

Rosscameasdoody · 26/07/2024 16:54

That’s what l was trying to establish because appointeeship normally stops at age 16 when the child transfers from DLA to PIP paid in their own right. If he’s claiming PIP then he’s over 16 and would normally get the benefit paid directly to him unless OP reapplied for appointeeship.

Which is clearly what she has doneas she still is the apppointee... Not sure what you are trying to establish here?

PoopedAndScooped · 26/07/2024 17:21

The OP wants to know the answer to the MATHS - THATS ALL

She isnt asking anything else

Some people are so damn nosy !!!

CautiousLurker · 26/07/2024 17:25

Rosscameasdoody · 26/07/2024 16:54

That’s what l was trying to establish because appointeeship normally stops at age 16 when the child transfers from DLA to PIP paid in their own right. If he’s claiming PIP then he’s over 16 and would normally get the benefit paid directly to him unless OP reapplied for appointeeship.

No appointeeship can be for vulnerable adults, as the basic premise is that they have conditions that mean that they are not living independently and the money is supposed to help scaffold them towards it.

We’ve just claimed PIP for my 19yo DD (ASD/ADHD with MH issues); I am her appointee and handle everything to do with benefits, medical enquiries etc. I had to be vetted at home by the DWP where I think my DD was having an especially bad day and came across as very ASD, so PIP assessors didn’t even ask to meet her in person, just held an assessment interview over the phone with me!

I asked for monies to be paid into her bank account at that interview and they insisted it should be paid to me, and that I allocate what she needs and retain any amounts as I see fit for reasonable expenses incurred on her behalf, including towards food/‘rent’. This, personally, makes me uncomfortable so I have to transfer the bulk of it into a second account where I can log everything I don’t transfer directly to her (driving lesson etc) - am terrified of being accused of misappropriating it!

Couldyounot · 26/07/2024 17:28

Right, OP. This is what's going on.

He is messing around with the dates on his app.

He is doing this to make it look like you have paid him less than you have actually paid him.

He hopes that you will believe what he is saying, so that you will pay him more money than he is supposed to have.

He is being dishonest. I'm sorry.

Howdoesitworkagain · 26/07/2024 17:28

PoopedAndScooped · 26/07/2024 17:01

According to ur amounts wrote down you have given him £412.70 since the 5th untill today

On his calculations he has missed out the payments you paid him between the 5th and the 10th which was £177.50

So he thinks he has had £235.20 because he hasnt added the £177.50 between the 5th and the 10th

Edited

No he doesn’t, he thinks he’s had £206.20 because that’s what his banking app says. That’s one of the problems, that his says £206.20 and OP has a different amount for the same date range. Posts that quote incorrect numbers are making this more confusing for her, not less confusing

PoopedAndScooped · 26/07/2024 17:30

Howdoesitworkagain · 26/07/2024 17:28

No he doesn’t, he thinks he’s had £206.20 because that’s what his banking app says. That’s one of the problems, that his says £206.20 and OP has a different amount for the same date range. Posts that quote incorrect numbers are making this more confusing for her, not less confusing

Those numbers are based on HER calculations.

HIS calculations are from the 10th

So the amount she gave him between the 5th and the 9th are not on his calculations

BrumToTheRescue · 26/07/2024 17:32

PoopedAndScooped · 26/07/2024 17:30

Those numbers are based on HER calculations.

HIS calculations are from the 10th

So the amount she gave him between the 5th and the 9th are not on his calculations

Read the thread.

The total of all the amounts on the sheet of paper since the 10th (ignoring the ones on the 5th, 8th and 9th) equal £235.20. Which is more than the amount on the screenshot that has been paid into DS’s account since the 10th.

butterpuffed · 26/07/2024 17:32

Posted in wrong place .

PoopedAndScooped · 26/07/2024 17:33

BrumToTheRescue · 26/07/2024 17:32

Read the thread.

The total of all the amounts on the sheet of paper since the 10th (ignoring the ones on the 5th, 8th and 9th) equal £235.20. Which is more than the amount on the screenshot that has been paid into DS’s account since the 10th.

Read what i wrote! I said £235.20 !

BrumToTheRescue · 26/07/2024 17:36

I read what you wrote. You wrote ”So he thinks he has had £235.20 because he hasnt added the £177.50 between the 5th and the 10th…” OP’s DS doesn’t think he has had £235.20. That is what OP’s amounts from the 10th add up to. DS thinks he has had £206.20 since the 10th as per his screenshot.

Helpplease46 · 26/07/2024 17:38

Howdoesitworkagain · 26/07/2024 17:28

No he doesn’t, he thinks he’s had £206.20 because that’s what his banking app says. That’s one of the problems, that his says £206.20 and OP has a different amount for the same date range. Posts that quote incorrect numbers are making this more confusing for her, not less confusing

🤔 I'm thinking he's playing me . On. the 5th he had 155.00 he's saying he's only had 206.20 . And . 206.20 - 155.00 = 51.20? So according to him from the 6th onwards. So 20 days he's only had 51.20 which =2.56 a day . ??

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PoopedAndScooped · 26/07/2024 17:40

BrumToTheRescue · 26/07/2024 17:36

I read what you wrote. You wrote ”So he thinks he has had £235.20 because he hasnt added the £177.50 between the 5th and the 10th…” OP’s DS doesn’t think he has had £235.20. That is what OP’s amounts from the 10th add up to. DS thinks he has had £206.20 since the 10th as per his screenshot.

Edited

The son’s screen shot was on Wednesday and she has paid him today and yesterday!