Can I get help this not sure if ds is taking advantage money wise I have included pics/run down

[Helpplease46]

I'm a bit worried ds it taking advantage of me. But I could be wrong.

Ds gets 405.40 a month due to pip. He sent me a screen shot saying I have only paid him 206.60 . He said I need to give him 22.60 daily until he gets pip again on the 2nd Aug. But his screen shot he sent me says money in from the 10th when I started giving him money from the 5th .

Can someone help me work it out. I have hand written the amounts from. The 5th . And also included ds screen shot.

I have learning difficulties so I find this stuff hard and ds is just over talking me and getting very stroppy and boarding on aggressive. So then I can't sort anything out .

He's also getting 58.00 a week of his social worker . Its his money regardless but I don't want to be giving him more money than he should be getting.

The confusion seems to be because your DS is showing the payments from the 10th. He needs to change the dates on his banking app to cover the same date range as you are working from.
If he is over 18 does he not have the capacity to have the money paid direct to him? If not it may be better that someone else deals with it for him rather than you struggling with trying to explain it to him.

He's saying it because he's fucked up with his banking app and has set it to show amounts paid in only from the 10 July. Therefore he hasn't counted the money that you paid him prior to 10 July. That's what @PatriciaHolm has just explained to you.

If his PIP goes in on the 2nd of every month, he needs to check payments made starting on 2 July, not 10 July.

You need to point that out to him.

Scribbling things down on bits of paper probably isn't the best way to keep a record of this stuff. Do you not have online/app banking yourself?

Can you look at his banking app together to see the amounts between the 5th and the 9th so he sees that as well as the £206 he's had from the 10th onwards, he's also had £177.50 so had nearly all his money apart from one lot of £20 ish, not several?

Has he forgotten/misunderstood about spending the £177 ish early this month? His app shows that he only had £1.39 in his account on 10th July so he must have spent this money in the few days before then - or could it have been transferred to another account?

What way of managing this would work better for you going forward OP?

It is in my bank . It shows me everything I have paid to him. I only hand wrote it to show on here because my bank won't let me screen shot.

I think I knew I was right. I just felt like I was going a bit mad

I will tell him to move the 10th till the 5th then he should have a different amount show .

You have misunderstood my post. The total of all the amounts on the paper add up to more than the PIP payment, but the amounts you say you have paid since the 10th do not add up to the payments from the 10th as per the screen shot.

The total of all amounts on your sheet of paper equals £412.70. Which is more than the 4 weekly PIP payment.
The total of all the amounts on the sheet of paper since the 10th (ignoring the ones on the 5th, 8th and 9th) equals £235.20. Which is more than the amount on the screen shot that has been paid into DS’s account since the 10th.

In a nut she I Need to make sure he shows me the right date . I'm going to screen shot and explain to him now .

@Helpplease46 Do you pay your DS the social workers amount as well?

If you do you should give him £22.75 per day.
If you do not you should give him £14.47 per day.

He needs to show you his full bank transactions from the 5th July.

I think what’s causing the two of you confusion is that the payments are not a set amount.

i can now see where the £22 figure comes from when it’s combined with his social worker £58 per week.

Would he be able to manage if you put £22.76 in to his account daily, starting from the 2nd of august?

What people are questioning is that the total figure on your piece of paper, starting from the 10th, do not match the total money in to his account. Has all the money been given to him by bank transfer? No cash or you purchasing something directly from a shop?

That's because hexset it to the 10th . When it should be the 5th .

As I said, the figures do not match even when you only look at the transactions from the 10th.

I haven’t read the full thread so apologies if someone has already said this but pip is paid 4 weekly (for example on a Thursday) so when that amount goes into your bank, can you just transfer him the full amount at once so that’s it for 4 weeks? Would that be less confusing for you?

His social worker is giving him. 58.00 a week I'm a pre paid card so it's paid in totally separately.

His pip is paid into a totally separate account.

But now you say about the figure maybe he has hadded up the social worker money plus the pip money. Out it together. But got a bit lost and forgot these are from to different places ie the pip abs the sw. Out he's trying go get thar 22 from the pip. Whe uts actually from 2 different places...

I don't understand

Sorry op. We can see the dates you have written alongside the payment. We are not talking about the payments prior to the 10th. The first payment on the 11th, to the 26th do not match with what funds have gone in to his account in total, from the 10th to the 26th.

have you made any payments in any way other than direct bank account to bank account transfer?

If you have not, then it’s not adding up. I’d be strongly inclined to thinking that you’ve made a duplication somewhere in your jotting down, over a banking app giving an incorrect reading.

No he will spent it in a day.

The total of all amounts on your sheet of paper equal £412.70. Which is more than the 4 weekly PIP payment of £405.40.

The total of all the amounts on the sheet of paper since the 10th (ignoring the amounts on the 5th, 8th and 9th) equal £235.20. DS’s screenshot states £206.20 has gone his account since the 10th. So the amount you say you have given him since the 10th is more than the amount that has entered his account since the 10th.

So, the social worker is giving the £58 directly and you have no handling of that money?

Then you’ve been overpaying. If your transfers are purely pip, he is due to get £14.48.

I think it would be beneficial for you and him to learn some budgeting/money management to do a daily transfer of £14.48.

Hi, by my calculations you have transfered to your son 412.70 from July 5th to July 26th. So you have given him an extra 7.30.
I have attached pictures of my calculations.
The money column shows what is left from the 405.40 payment after each transfer.

As others have said - you need to see his full statement for July so that you can see what you’ve sent him since 5th July. (Or just look at your own bank statement as it will have your transfers).

Do not allow him to brow beat you - but maybe you should speak to his social worker about a better way to pay him - a weekly amount by standing order, or get it paid into his account not yours (unless there is a reason he needs to not have that much up front).

I get my DDs PIP and she does NOT receive it all. I was expressly told at my ‘appointee’ interview that I am entitled to keep some back to cover costs (food, petrol, phone bill etc) which I rarely do. I pay some into a savings account, which I am holding back for driving lessons, travel to college in September, or unexpected costs that I incur for her, and each month she gets a single lump sum to manage on her own.

@Helpplease46 I can see you're getting confused.

All the amounts from 10/07/24 until now on your paper add up to £235.20. Then you say that you gave him £177.50. That adds up to £412.70.

But the screenshot your DS has shared with you from 10th onwards, says that £206.20 has been paid in, not £235.20. So that's what is confusing people.

That aside - how old is he and are you getting any benefits to contribute to his keep?

This sounds horrendous with the numbers scribbled down on bits of paper and neither person able to work out who has paid what. You need to set up a standing order where the money goes to his account either daily or whatever he can cope with (every three days?). Can the social worker do that for you? Work out the daily amount and set up a regular payment?

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No it’s 405.40 monthly.

That’s (405.40 x 12m =) £93.55 per week, or £13.36 a day.

Am going to assume there is a reason he is not allowed to have the monies in his account at once, but OP you could set up a standing order for weekly or daily.

As far as I can see from your tally, he has had £412.70 already this month so actually owes OP £7.30.

ie no more money until 5th Aug.