Anxious about trump presidency

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Is anyone else lying awake at night worrying about this?

I don't live in the states but I am really anxious about this. I'm anxious for everyone living over there yes very much so, but I'm anxious about the much greater possibility of world war, I'm anxious about all the cuts to funding for various international issues in particular climate change initiatives. We're already fucked on that front but if there's any hope for our children we need the power of the states. The Project 2025 list of targets is like something from a dystopian novel, it's really frightening.

I'm also very nervous that the way the new government will structure the legal system they will essentially create a dictatorship that will never be able to be dismantled - they have basically said they will try to do this and tried last time (but failed).

Can anyone talk me down. I can't see anything positive here.

Sure, if they had been able to nominate Merrick Garland that would have worked, but the Republicans blocked that. So she couldn't step down.

She had pancreatic cancer, but her mental faculties were still acute and she was managing it extremely well. She lived 10 more years after her diagnosis, which is pretty much unheard of. The 5 year survival rate is only 10%. I saw her do her regular workout with her trainer. She was still doing full pushups well into her 80s, lifting weights and using the treadmill. She was far from feeble. A twenty something reporter tried to do her workout with her and literally fell on his face. He said it wrecked him.

I lived in Ottawa at the time. I saw it first hand. I already explained the manifestation, and it was hell on earth. People with asthma and other respiratory disorders were particularly affected by the carbon monoxide those scum deliberately belched out to harm people.
They did not "peacefully demonstrate." That's the point.

@BigDecisionWorthIt

For OP: Project 2025 is a think tank written by the Heritage Foundation. Yes it was done by notable Republican members but it is not a manifesto and is not an official document outlining what Trump plans to do.

Project 2025 is a Presidential transition plan, and many of his former staffers developed it. An associated plan, Agenda 47 (available on Trump's website I think) is very similar but more action-based. 2025 is the roadmap, 47 is the slightly more detailed instructions on how to get there.

…are you also tying it to Trump himself?

You've 'never heard of it'? 🤦‍♀️

I'm agog at your brag about never reading/listening to the news. Being informed is powerful...deliberately not educating yourself on even the most basic of world events makes you sound like an idiot 🤷‍♀️

Do better!

There was all this sort of talk when he was first running for president. Celebs bleating about leaving the country etc.
Did anything catastrophic happen?

Yes. He attempted to overturn the democratic electoral system and replace it with a coup.

One of the most incomprehensible things about all this is the number of people who think that because he didn't quite succeed, "oh well that's OK then. Let's just give him another go."

Thanks for this
I honestly hadn't heard of the project despite sharing OPs views
It's the environmental concerns that bother me
We need to take action faster, not reverse it

Biden needs to step down!

I'm far more worried about a Biden presidency. The man is obviously senile yet has his finger on the nuclear button. On the last week he called Ukrainian president Putin and said Trump was his deputy president. That after the terrible debate performance. Yet Starmer thinks he's fit to be in charge.

Do you think for a sentient moment that Sunak or Johnson or Truss or May or Cameron would have said about a democratically elected serving US president, with whom we now need to keep the 'special relationship' more than ever because of the mess of Brexit that they were unfit for office? It's clear that Biden is struggling. That doesn't mean any PM is going to publicly denounce him.

I think a lunatic in charge of the US nuclear codes is a perfectly legitimate thing to be worried about. It certainly concerns me and everyone else I know.

Yet Starmer thinks he's fit to be in charge.

Yeah - stupid old Starmer not starting an international incident and finding himself accused of weighing into US politics. What a loser for not insulting the US President publically. Man, it's like he never went to the Liz Truss finishing school of international diplomacy ("The jury is out").

I mean, he said he was "in good form" which are basically the words I use about my increasingly disabled mother, but, you know - that obviously means he's 100% gung-ho for Biden and thinks the man capable of running marathons and being President for the next 20 years.

I have SEEN footage more than once of him talking about Project 2025..he is a liar

Exactly. Obviously Starmer thinks nothing of the sort.

The project 2025 authors are very firmly embedded in the Republican party, true its not a manifesto but only a fool would discount Trump not enacting some of these ideas, he cannot stand for a 3rd term, so doesn't need to hold back this time around.

The withdrawal in Afghanistan was a Trump plan, i dont see how, once the decision to go ahead was made, anything could be different.... the Taliban were winning against the USA/Allies and we were all fed up with our soldiers dying for no reason.

Trump wants to negotiate a settlement in Ukraine where Russia gains land and Ukraine can never join NATO.... how do you think that might work out?

Trump may very well take the USA out of NATO, he will have the mandate to do so, many Americans do not see why Europe should have free healthcare etc etc whilst the USA does not and they pour billions into Europes defence, its not about 2%, which would still require the USA to underwrite our defence.

We in Europe need to be looking at defence spending going back to Cold War levels.

Didn't have a war whilst in office for just 4 years.... wow thats a pretty low bar isn't it?

The USA is going back to its often held "America (insular) First" stance, they'd never had joined WW2 had Japan not attacked & Europe/the RoW is going to be a very different place next year.

A Trump administration is a Putin administration

Why?

I think those are good things in this time when war is around the corner. I think ww3 is a lot worse for you and your children than trumps wacky climate change ideas. Trump managed to connect north and South Korea.. that is insane! Look for the positives. the time under trump was a lot better than under Biden, Biden wrecked that economy.

Also not sending money to Europe for wars... why should the US taxpayers be paying for a war they aren't involved in? And has any of this money helped? We should be working towards peace not paying for Ukraines weapons to keep this slaughter up

Honestly trump supporters baffle me completely.

I am concerned about the literal future of the planet, food and water shortages, extreme weather, mass migration - Trump wants to pull funding for research into how to stop this and accelerate it instead by promoting fossil fuels. How on earth can anyone view this as positive? Baffling.

He wants to undermine the very American constitution. He wants to make legal changes to prevent it being a democracy so he can be in power for a long time. He tried to do it last time, and he made some headway but not enough. He literally has been convicted of trying to block the election results. It's not a fantasy. This time he won't fail. Then he can do what he wants.

He wants to remove the morning after pill and abortion rights. It's very handmaids tale no? This will of course create a cascade of other problems including poverty, criminality which he will then want to clamp down on etc.

And that's even before we get into all the other issues.

What a load of brainwashed rubbish.

Sure it wasn't that bad. IF:

You weren't interested in a free and fair political system.
If you weren't a woman, a Muslim, Mexican, or a minority.
You have any concern for the environment.

The list goes on. It wasn't bad, it was fucking dire.

@XChrome not wanting to allow in floods of illegal immigrants into a country isn't racist.
It has nothing to do with race but everything to do with the fact that they are illegal and undocumented and then the US has to take care of them. If all the immigrants coming into the US were white what insults could you throw at people who didn't like it? Leave race out of it ands let's actually talk about the real issue not your straw man

And anyone who thinks that Biden is more dangerous than Trump 🤣 he clearly needs to step down. But if he stays in h won't be able to do the job and has lots of moderate people supporting him. It's not even a comparison.

So you only want the president to be able to rape women? And have been strongly implicated in condoning the rape of children? Ok that’s clear then.

If you are genuinely lying awake at night unable to sleep because of it seek professional help

What happened to Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, the wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door!?