OK-Join me in a "Who will lose their job first?" poll

[CurlewKate]

And how soon" competition.

My money's on David Lammy by February.

So what was your point?

I don't need newspapers or social media to know what life here has been like for the last thirty years.

They’ve been the only ones presiding over the entire UK. And the only ones those of us living in England can blame.

Ditto here north of the border. The nationalists here say much the same as cardibach.

I’ve lived here for the last 23 (and my family more or less forever). What do you think life has been like? Because I’m not getting it.

Not over the many devolved matters they haven’t.

Well, in a sense they have as they’ve controlled the budget.

There are no devolved matters in England where I live.

@cardibach Not over how it’s spent (which includes the Barnett) or monies raised from Scottish taxes.

Yes - because England is not the UK.The Tories aren’t responsible for the incompetent running of our key services.

It’s a substantial part of it.

No extra taxes in Wales.
If I’m given £1k a month to clever my expenses but my expenses total £1.5 however much I economise, whose fault is it when I can’t pay my bills?

The size of England has nothing to do with devolved matters.

Why is this racist thread even being allowed to continue?

I didn’t say it had. The point you’re attempting to dance around is that those of us who live in England can only lay the blame for the chaos and misery of the last 14 years at the door of the Tory government. There is no one else.

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I don't think anything will happen for a while OP. This is the honeymood period. Give it until winter. I reckon late Jan/early Feb and we will be plunged into our first year of Labour chaos. Then heads will roll.

We’re just relieved to have decent people in power after 14-years of sleaze and asset stripping the country.

I’m not dancing around anything - I was reminding a pp that the absolute state of the UK is not only down to a Tory govt. .

The absolute state of England - which is just as bad, if not worse - is down to a Tory government. Your insistence on attempting to exonerate them doesn’t wash.

The post I was responding to was about the UK. Incompetence is visible across all Govts in the Uk - don’t think for a second it’s confined to the Tories.

@FinalCeleryScheme what were the greatest achievements of the tories ? Out of interest.

First time I heard David lammy is dumb. Dunno about the other. But if going on anti Gaza atrocities is a terrorism match, what nonsense. Makes me a terrorist too

Tories have been in power for 3/4 of the last 100 years. They were seen as the natural party of government rightly or wrongly.

Yes, and haven’t had control over key services and areas in other parts of the UK for all that time - services and areas which have been run into the ground by incompetent non Tory govts. Come on over to Scotsnet to hear what we’ve been living under.