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Are many people still homophobic ?

223 replies

whatisforteamum · 19/06/2024 16:55

Twice now I've had jobs where it's come up in conversation where do your adult dcs live.
Around the month in point.Both times I've said where my DD lives and my ds who is gay lives with his partner.
Both times my colleagues have gone weird with me.
I live in a nice town and have worked in smaller villages.
Are people still homophobic or am I being paranoid.

OP posts:
trippily · 19/06/2024 20:33

You should see the response to our small town pride on the local Facebook. Horrifying and getting worse I would say.

Marblessolveeverything · 19/06/2024 20:33

Yep on some of certain threads on here it is very clear to see. It's fine to be gay just quietly and don't attend pride, wear rainbows, mention sexuality to children

While completely missing the irony that everything a child sees is heterosexually biased, fairytales for example, the shock of two men or women dancing on a programme etc

In real life no I don't see it very often.

BreezyWriter · 19/06/2024 20:37

I am a lesbian who goes to our local Pride. Just thought I would post before the usual - lesbians do not go to Pride anymore, only men in dresses.

FatmanandKnobbin · 19/06/2024 20:39

My children's dad disowned them for being queer, said he would rather they were dead.

My mother reported me to SS for 'forcing' my dc to be queer.

My brothers say I have brought shame to the family by supporting my kids.

So yes, it's still rife.

Other plus side I save a fortune on mother's day, Xmas and birthday because I cut the lot of them out.

BigDahliaFan · 19/06/2024 20:43

I see it on some of the FB posts for our town, there was a fuss about sex education classes here and a lot of homophobia of the ‘I don’t mind what they do in private but…’ kind.

friends who are gay are careful about being affectionate in public.

my 20-ish year old step kids seem very unfazed by gayness or anything else really.

pointythings · 19/06/2024 20:44

FatmanandKnobbin · 19/06/2024 20:39

My children's dad disowned them for being queer, said he would rather they were dead.

My mother reported me to SS for 'forcing' my dc to be queer.

My brothers say I have brought shame to the family by supporting my kids.

So yes, it's still rife.

Other plus side I save a fortune on mother's day, Xmas and birthday because I cut the lot of them out.

We've had some of that from my late husband's family - he was not at all homophobic himself, but some of his side of the family are gun totin' Trump votin' all-American rednecks with the views to match. He didn't have a lot to do with them.

suggestionsplease1 · 19/06/2024 20:52

BreezyWriter · 19/06/2024 20:37

I am a lesbian who goes to our local Pride. Just thought I would post before the usual - lesbians do not go to Pride anymore, only men in dresses.

Same.

It's a well established tactic now on these boards: 'O I am/ my friends are / my daughter is / sister is a/are lesbians and I/ they can't stand all the rainbows / this pride nonsense/ gay people drawing attention to their sexuality as it's been taken over by the trans lobby / men in dresses and we just want to be quietly normal. 🙄🙄🙄

Please don't anyone fall for it.

It's a divide and conquer tactic aimed at undermining the LGBTQ community and diminishes us all.

There are lot of people out there that want gay people to quietly disappear and reducing our visibility and sewing disharmony amongst us is the best way for them to achieve it.

Pride is hugely popular amongst lesbians and we have a massive presence in the marches and celebrations ...there are more women at these marches than there have ever been.

No doubt there will be someone along soon, as per the usual on the FWR boards, to say 'But how do you know they are men and not women in dresses?' 🙄

Alwaysthesun24 · 19/06/2024 20:59

I think that Pride needs to exist so that people can attend if it's important to them - I wouldn't judge anyone on whether they attend Pride or not though, how you express any aspect of your life is personal choice (or should be).

StraightLines · 19/06/2024 20:59

suggestionsplease1 · 19/06/2024 20:52

Same.

It's a well established tactic now on these boards: 'O I am/ my friends are / my daughter is / sister is a/are lesbians and I/ they can't stand all the rainbows / this pride nonsense/ gay people drawing attention to their sexuality as it's been taken over by the trans lobby / men in dresses and we just want to be quietly normal. 🙄🙄🙄

Please don't anyone fall for it.

It's a divide and conquer tactic aimed at undermining the LGBTQ community and diminishes us all.

There are lot of people out there that want gay people to quietly disappear and reducing our visibility and sewing disharmony amongst us is the best way for them to achieve it.

Pride is hugely popular amongst lesbians and we have a massive presence in the marches and celebrations ...there are more women at these marches than there have ever been.

No doubt there will be someone along soon, as per the usual on the FWR boards, to say 'But how do you know they are men and not women in dresses?' 🙄

To be fair, it’s easy to tell if someone is a woman.

Mysterian · 19/06/2024 21:02

StraightLines · 19/06/2024 20:59

To be fair, it’s easy to tell if someone is a woman.

If you're going to suggest looking at their genitals you must go to a very different Waitrose than me.

StraightLines · 19/06/2024 21:05

Mysterian · 19/06/2024 21:02

If you're going to suggest looking at their genitals you must go to a very different Waitrose than me.

No, we don’t need to look at genitals to know someone’s sex.

Mostlycarbon · 19/06/2024 21:07

Yes, sadly. I was at a funeral recently and the funeral director physically jumped several feet backwards when he realised my friend was gay. Almost like physically recoiling from him. We have a long way to go.

Bobbotgegrinch · 19/06/2024 21:10

Given some of the replies on Mumsnet recently, I'm going to go with yes unfortunately.

There are still some very homophobic people around.

DuesToTheDirt · 19/06/2024 21:16

People dislike other groups of people for all sorts of reasons. Sexuality, race, social class, accents, all sorts! So yes, some people are homophobic; I don't know about "many" - how many is many?

Foxesandsquirrels · 19/06/2024 21:39

Feelsodrained · 19/06/2024 20:21

For real? She said she said his partners name. So if she said my son lives with his partner David, of course they know he’s gay because I’ve never met any women called David.

She said in her OP:

Both times I've said where my DD lives and my ds who is gay lives with his partner.

explicitly specifying your child is gay is weird. Op only clarified later on that it was a name, after many people questioned this.

Anyway it's weird to me that someone with a gay child didn't know we live amongst raging homophobia.

Foxesandsquirrels · 19/06/2024 21:40

Mysterian · 19/06/2024 21:02

If you're going to suggest looking at their genitals you must go to a very different Waitrose than me.

😂😂😂😂

whatisforteamum · 19/06/2024 21:51

Gruttenberg I agree.
Sure it seems better than the 80s.
Yet still a vein of homophobia running through.
If your DC has a husband, wife or partner we don't mind.
Just be sure not to mention it.

OP posts:
Libre2 · 19/06/2024 22:06

crackofdoom · 19/06/2024 18:39

My 8 year old decided to come out as bisexual- to everyone he knows, including his entire class. (I admit I was a bit surprised, we hadn't Discussed Sexuality at home, although we have a same sex family as neighbours, and every time homosexuality came up in conversation at home it was treated as a matter of course. However, I think they did something about Pride at school, and I know many gay/ bisexual people just know as children, just like many straight people do).

Since then we've been pretty much shunned by the other parents. Blanked at the school gates, messages suggesting playdates left on read (it's a small farming community).

Now, I can't say it was that for sure, but I have strong suspicions.

Your EIGHT your old came out as bisexual? I suspect the shock is not the “coming out” but that an 8 year old knows what that even is and that they are having sexual feelings for anyone at all, male or female.

Mysterian · 19/06/2024 22:10

Bisexual means you're attracted to 2 sexes. Just because it's got "sex" in the word doesn't mean it's about intercourse.

Libre2 · 19/06/2024 22:12

Mysterian · 19/06/2024 22:10

Bisexual means you're attracted to 2 sexes. Just because it's got "sex" in the word doesn't mean it's about intercourse.

Yes, thank you, quite aware of that. 8 year olds are not usually attracted to anyone in my experience.

MrsSkylerWhite · 19/06/2024 22:13

Sadly, yes they are.

NightsWithYou · 19/06/2024 22:15

You must know that there are still, sadly, a lot of people who are homophobic OP. At least you know to just swerve them.

Marblessolveeverything · 19/06/2024 22:15

Libre2 · 19/06/2024 22:06

Your EIGHT your old came out as bisexual? I suspect the shock is not the “coming out” but that an 8 year old knows what that even is and that they are having sexual feelings for anyone at all, male or female.

I knew was attracted to men at age 6+. I always knew I was straight why wouldn’t someone know they were gay or bi?

can you not understand that this shows exactly how society treats gay people differently.

NightsWithYou · 19/06/2024 22:17

StraightLines · 19/06/2024 21:05

No, we don’t need to look at genitals to know someone’s sex.

Agreed.

Men presenting as women/bring trans is a whole different thing to being gay. This thread is about sexuality, not identity.

NightsWithYou · 19/06/2024 22:22

Marblessolveeverything · 19/06/2024 22:15

I knew was attracted to men at age 6+. I always knew I was straight why wouldn’t someone know they were gay or bi?

can you not understand that this shows exactly how society treats gay people differently.

I agree that children often like boys or girls or both at a young age. That poster was expressing surprise at a child liking anyone in that way though, so it may not be a case of treating gay people differently, just surprise that very young children can feel that way, regardless of who they like.