Are many people still homophobic ?

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Twice now I've had jobs where it's come up in conversation where do your adult dcs live.
Around the month in point.Both times I've said where my DD lives and my ds who is gay lives with his partner.
Both times my colleagues have gone weird with me.
I live in a nice town and have worked in smaller villages.
Are people still homophobic or am I being paranoid.

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Here's the homophobe! Case in point. "It's not necessary to point it out"? How is just casually saying in normal conversation "my son lives with his partner" any different to saying my son lives with his wife"??

@Hb7x3 because they have changed the definition of homosexuality to same gender attraction instead of same sex attraction. Lesbians are to want sex with transwomen I.e. biological men, and have been thrown out pride marches etc.

Like most of these things

Racism
Sexism
Homophobia
Islamophobia
Xenophobia
Anti semetism

It's all still there...vast majority know that it's now socially unacceptable to overtly express these views but they still have the same thoughts. They are either hidden or expressed in a more subtle way.

Congratulations on your bigotry?

Not heard the term ‘homosexualism’ since it was roared by an angry octogenarian colonel in the course of a Brexit debate in our village pub. It was one of the moments that reminded me I was living in the wrong place.

Well, Stonewall thinks lesbians are "sexual racists" if they don't want to have sex with male-bodied people...

What's the point of this post?

This one I mean.

It's still around but what I don't understand is why you have to point out the fact they are in a gay relationship? To me I think drawing attention to it all the time doesn't normalise it and that's a very bad choice of words on my part. What I mean is ok someone is gay so what? It's like saying my daughter lives with her partner who's in a wheelchair you just wouldn't so why is it different if someone is gay?

It’s a response. Did you think you were getting a round of applause for typing out all that nonsense, or something?

So I for example as a man shouldn’t say when asked a similar question “I live with my husband”?

No, but I genuinely don't see the point in your response. It's not clever, it's not challenging. It's just pointless.

Oh I didn't realise pointing out both were male was wrong.
I should be ashamed perhaps.
One of my colleagues pointed out her son has a nut allergy.
Doubt that has much relevance either.

I think your answer is on the thread - lots of overt (it’s wrong) and more covered up (why did you draw attention to it) homophobia on display.

It’s definitely rarer but it’s there.

We are actually a very very Liberal country. We have progressed with leaps and bounds - especially with being homosexual & issues regarding race

Yes you will always get a few brain dead idiots but they are not a true reflection of the entire U.K.

It depends how you do it and if it's relevant to the conversation.

So...where does your ds live? Oh he lives in London with his partner. His partner is a man by the way.

That would probably raise an eyebrow.

Or, so what does your ds partner do? Oh, he works in computers.

A conversation which is flowing naturally.

Hope that makes sense!

But it depends on how it’s said.

’where do your kids live?’

’one in Sheffield and one in Leeds’ is fine

Responding ‘one in Sheffield and one live with his male partner in Leeds’ is a bit weird.

Would you have pointed out the sex of their partner if it was a woman? That’s what makes it a bit weird.

Its all about context.

If you literally said ‘with their partner in X city’ then they have no clue your son is gay anyway.

Its not actually clear how you worded it.

If a colleague pointed out her son Has a nut allergy in relation to ‘where do your kids live?’ I would think it was weird as well.

Yes they are.

We left the UK recently, August, although I keep thinking it was just a couple of months ago. Some words our son learned at the north london primary he attended, gay as an insult/thats so gay, bumboy and lezzer. Most of which he heard from the age of 5 in year 1. He had in year two “you can’t come to my party anymore because your dads are gay”.

Homophobic abuse from a colleague who also said I tricked and decieved him by discussing rugby, if he had known I was gay he wouldn’t have shared an office with me, a statement he said to my face.

It being too dangerous to hold a partners hand, homophobes gathering around gay clubs to verbally abuse guests, people trying to prevent us getting married, having children, fetishising us, particularly gay women who are often treated like they belong to straight men.

The colleague with the child and the nut allergy is the same.

So how old is your child? Oh he's seven. He has a peanut allergy you know.

Bit unnecessary

Or

sorry I was late, ds accidentally ate a nut which he's allergic to so I had to give him his meds.

Ordinary conversation.

You should ask this question to your son and his partner.

Sadly I'm sure they'll tell you yes, some people are.

But I'm sure you must know that?

I think the answer to your question, OP, is yes.

Yes it's alive and well .
Paying for petrol the queue was joined by three butch lesbians , shaved hair , blokes clothes , heavy blokes boots , covered in tatts .

' God I want to vom ' said a voice from behind me . ' I feel sick said his friend .

What surprised me most was that were about 20 and I thought the young were tolerant of everyone .

That’s the complication.

My daughter is a lesbian and she and her partner hate when it’s pointed out. Or people show shock when they introduce eachother to new people. ‘Oh I had no idea you were gay’.

They would much prefer their relationship to be treated exactly the same as straight relationship. Plenty of young people feel that going the extra mile to point out someone else is gay is homophobic. Feeling that it needs to be pointed out is homophobic, to them.

Gay people all feel differently. Ops colleagues could be gay, or bisexual and may feel like my daughter and her partner.

If someone asks you if you are married of course you would say yes I am, my point being was and in my eyes it's pretty much normal why do you feel the need to point it out. If someone said to me are you married I would say yes I wouldn't feel the need to say yes I'm married to my husband so why should it be any different for gay people?

That's exactly how I would see it tbh. If a new colleague introduced their kids as my DD lives here and my son who is gay lives with his parter, I'd honestly think my colleague is either one of those incredibly incredibly over the top proud gay parents, or homophobic. Both would bother me if I was gay. If it's normal it's normal. Why are you drawing attention to it. Almost like implying the daughter is 'normal' so her sexuality isn't being pointed out, and the son is gay. I'd find that really weird and I genuinely think that's why op is getting those reactions.