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Is this normal for a 10 year old boy?

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Lawcruncher · 17/05/2024 12:01

Recently my 10 year old (year 5) nephew ‘B’ came to stay with us. I don’t get to see him often due to distance and was really looking forward to this trip. It was easter holidays, his mum had a routine hospital visit and my brother (his dad) had to work, so I was glad to help out by looking after him for a few days. The experience has left me concerned for his wellbeing, and I am not sure what to do. I feel like I should speak to my brother, but I am worried about causing a family rift. I would appreciate any feedback, positive or negative, as currently I feel very conflicted.

I could write so much more here about all the things that concerned me but I’m not sure people would want to read all that, so I will summarise as best I can.
He arrived in tears because his ipad had run out of battery on the car journey. That was my brothers fault because he didn’t remind him to charge it. In the instructions for looking after him I was told that he is only allowed to play on his ipad between 7am and 8pm. His bedtime is 8pm and he is allowed to watch 1 DVD in bed, to help him fall asleep. He sleeps with the light on all night as he doesn’t like the dark.

He needs to be supervised brushing his teeth and using the toilet before bed, otherwise he won’t do it but will say he has. If he doesn’t use the toilet before bed he will wet the bed. He needs help dressing appropriately in the morning. He doesn’t shower, and his mum baths him once a week. He doesn’t use deo and is quite smelly most of the time.

He cannot use a knife and fork. I don’t mean that he is bad with them, I literally mean he cannot use them. At breakfast he was unable to butter his toast. He just didn’t know how to hold the knife and even when shown, just could not do it. He also doesn’t use a fork, preferring a spoon or his fingers.

At lunch in a café he burst into tears when his jacket potato with cheese arrived with salad. He had read the menu and ordered himself, but not realise it would come with salad. That was my fault for not explaining it. After pushing all the salad off the plate (he did use his knife for that) he requested a spoon and proceeded to eat the potato using a spoon and his fingers. He was pushing potato with his fingers onto his spoon, and picking up dropped potato with his fingers. It was embarrassing.

That evening I made steak, chips, mushrooms and peas. B wouldn’t eat the mushrooms or peas, ate the chips with fingers and, after I had to cut it for him, ate the steak pieces with a spoon, using his fingers to push the pieces on. At mealtimes we tried to engage in conversation but all he could talk about was fortnite. At home he eats his meals on his own, on a tray in front of the TV. His standard meal is jacket potato with cheese, but sometimes he has a ham and cheese wrap. His parents eat after he has gone to bed. Even on a weekend, he eats separately in front of the TV.

All B wanted to do all day was sit in his room and play on his ipad, or sit in the living room and watch TV. It turned out that is all he does at home, and we had more tears and tantrums when I wouldn’t let him do that all day. He doesn’t participate in any activities (clubs, sports etc..), or have any friends. He can’t swim, ride a bike, kick a ball or tie shoe laces. He doesn’t read books. He is very overweight and did not want to play at the park I took him to. He would burst into tears at the drop of a hat, and everything is always someone else’s fault. His diet is very limited and does not include salad or vegetables unless you count potato. He likes to snack on crisps and full fat coke and had a full-on meltdown when he learned that we don’t have crisps in the house and only had coke zero, demanding that we go to the supermarket to buy them (we didn’t).

When my brother collected him at the end of the visit I mentioned what it had been like and he just dismissed it with ‘yeah, that’s what 10 year old boys are like!’ and didn’t seem bothered in the slightest.

I know other people with kids similar ages and have not seen anything like this. It was almost like watching a 2/3 year old toddler in a 10 year olds body. We have 2 girls of our own, both at Uni now, and by the time they were 6 or 7 they were fully capable of eating a meal using cutlery, and could tie shoe laces. They didn’t burst into tears at the smallest thing, and were socially able. They had friends, played outside and participated in sports/clubs. By age 10 they were so much more capable and independent then B is.

So is this normal for a 10 year old boy? Am I right or wrong to be concerned? Should I say something to his parents?

OP posts:
DinnaeFashYersel · 17/05/2024 12:08

A lot of it sounds completely normal plus hormones are getting going at this age.

GentlemanJohnny · 17/05/2024 12:10

No, this is NOT what 10 year old boys are like and I speak from experience having (a) been one and (b) helped raise two others.

Lipolio · 17/05/2024 12:11

I was VERY much like that as a 10 year old. I was overly coddled and my parents wouldn't let me do a thing around the house. I had no friends at school and no social skills and would spend my day playing on the computer.

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Apollo365 · 17/05/2024 12:12

most of this isn’t normal at all 😢

RuthW · 17/05/2024 12:14

Yes all normal except the not eating with proper cutlery.

Jeezitneverends · 17/05/2024 12:14

Absolutely not my experience my ds or his pals at that age.

What it does sound like is piss poor lazy parenting

Whisperingsummerishere · 17/05/2024 12:14

Not at all like my near 10 yo... Did you mean 7til 8 pm on his iPad?
I hope so...

reluctantbrit · 17/05/2024 12:15

Absolutely not.

yes, some are kind of addicted to electronics and will throw tantrums when they are taken off them. But the table manners, not being able to do basic hygiene at that age (they may not want but are normally capable of doing it), that is plain bad parenting.

Sorry but your brother and SIL are creating a massive problem.

SherlockHomies · 17/05/2024 12:15

He sounds over pampered and not at all independent but some parents insist on doing everything for their kids.

The tears and emotional stuff is probably a cross between hormones, and being sent to stay with an aunt he doesn't see very often.

Lawcruncher · 17/05/2024 12:15

No, I do mean 7am to 8pm. They had some kind of parental control on it which prevented him from using it before 7am or after 8pm.

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K0OLA1D · 17/05/2024 12:16

Well I have 12 and 10 year old boys and neither of them, although different from each other, are/were like your DN. My 10 year old gets himself food, drinks, (including cups of tea), gets himself dressed, washed, ready for bed etc. He doesn't read off his own back as he has dyslexia and really struggles, but he can swim, ride a bike, go out with friends. He's artistic and manages to hold a conversation with anyone!

I don't know what the answer is though OP. Is your brother and SIL approachable?

Singleandproud · 17/05/2024 12:16

Well, he could be emotionally neglected, his parents could just please him to get through the day and give in to his every whim or he could have diagnosed (that you haven't been told about) or undiagnosed additional needs. But no it's not particularly representative of 10 year olds, the screen time maybe but unable to use a fork not so much.

K0OLA1D · 17/05/2024 12:16

RuthW · 17/05/2024 12:14

Yes all normal except the not eating with proper cutlery.

It really isn't

mewkins · 17/05/2024 12:19

Some is normal (talking about apps, games, YouTube etc) as a go-to. Also the limited diet thing I can relate to though in my experience from 10 onwards it starts to get better. Not doing any activities or having any friends though is sad and I'd make a few constructive suggestions. My ds was very introverted but Cubs has done him the world of good. Likewise taking part in a sport.

TadpolesInPool · 17/05/2024 12:19

I don't want to use the word normal. I think his behaviour is totally in line with a child who has been allowed to eat with fingers/have unlimited screen/not do sports/eat by himself etc.

As a comparison my DS and DN are both 10.

DS - has difficulty with cutlery because of dyspraxia but can use them though we help cut up meat. Eats lots of vegetables but only fruit is a banana. Fussy with new tastes. Only likes homemade food. When out he will only eat chips and possibly breaded chicken or pizza (as long as it doesn't have too much cheese...)

Loves his screen but is limited to 2 x 1 hour each weekend day and although he will protest when time is up, he won't cry. He will cry though if a game goes badly.

Sleeps with a nightlight.

Is very sporty and active and has a busy social life. He is slim and muscly.

DN - uses cutlery fine but eats loads of crap, highly processed food (his parent's fault) and avoids all vegetables except 1.

Is not in the least bit active or sporty. Very overweight (parents' fault). Whinges about walking anywhere.

Likes screen and TV but has limits. When not watching something he plays happily by himself and reads LOADS.

Social life totally non existent. Again parents' fault as they have never done playdates/held birthday parties etc.

Sleeps with main light on in his room.

So in my experience, it sounds like a result of parenting rather than not being "normal".

fedupandstuck · 17/05/2024 12:19

It doesn't sound like most 10-year-olds to me, and nothing like mine (11 years now). It sounds like he's being infantilised to some degree by his parents. The sitting in front of the TV eating on his own from a tray sounds particularly bad, as does his overall diet.

Do you know why your brother parents him in this way?

Trinity69 · 17/05/2024 12:20

Not normal for an average 10 year old at all. My son has additional needs and still needs help and support with personal hygiene and teeth brushing at almost 15. He can, he just won’t, he needs me to body double with him to get these jobs done. He can make a cup of tea and a sandwich if he needs to but it’s generally quicker and easier if I do it myself because he is demand avoidant and can but won’t do those things. Took a long time to get to grips with cutlery (still not really mastered but no longer uses his hands to eat) and can tie laces but only recently. Don’t put it down to lazy parenting, parents of kids with additional needs do try to teach these things but sometimes the kids just can’t grasp it.

WelshNerd · 17/05/2024 12:20

This is very similar to mine, who has ASD, other than the diet and being overweight.

I wouldn't describe it as typical for all boys his age though and I'm very conscious that he appears as an outlier from his classmates.

JustKeepWalkingPast · 17/05/2024 12:21

NO, it isn't normal at all. I've had 2 sons, 2 grandsons, and none have been as you describe.

Your brother and his wife are absolutely crap parents - they haven't taught him to use cutlery - he eats alone???? How bloody awful is that! He's on his laptop for more than 12 hours a day?! He wets the bed if not prompted to go to the toilet, he can't dress himself, and he has ONE assisted bath in a week??

The poor kid needs proper parenting, and the ones he's got are no use. Does the boy see grandparents?

K0OLA1D · 17/05/2024 12:22

Both my dc 12 and 10 sleep with a night light

CBStrike · 17/05/2024 12:22

I have a 13 year old boy. None of that is normal. Sounds like his parents have not taught him the basics of life and he is treated like a baby. Poor boy.
I can't imagine what secondary school will be like for him.

acrossthebeach · 17/05/2024 12:24

RuthW · 17/05/2024 12:14

Yes all normal except the not eating with proper cutlery.

No it is not all normal for a ten year old.

I had a ten year old who could make his own breakfast and lunch, rarely burst into tears, and played out with his friends every day/in a football team at weekends.

It sounds more normal for a 3 year old.

TeaPleaseX · 17/05/2024 12:24

No it's not normal. I've got two Sen kids that age and even they don't behave like that. It sounds like lazy parenting has made him over spoilt and he cba to do anything for himself. Sad really.

LakeTiticaca · 17/05/2024 12:24

Poor kid. He isn't being parented adequately.
He needs some kind of intervention as it's highly likely to worsen as he gets older.
I fear we are raising a generation of zombies who are welded to their gadgets 24/7.
I worry for my grandchildren

SkeletonBatsflyatnight · 17/05/2024 12:25

I have a 9 year old boy and it doesn't sound normal at all. Ds and all his friends are capable of feeding themselves with cutlery and entertaining themselves without devices. He'd be mortified if I needed to supervise him going to the toilet before bed.

However we eat as a family, he attends a small village school where everyone eats together and using a knife/fork/spoon as appropriate is expected even for the 4 to 5 year olds. Plus he's been encouraged to do a wide range of clubs and activities since pre-school.