The Epstein list has been released

[KenAdams]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-67865190

Complex set of documents though. Even if you can get on the site it's not easy to digest, so we watch this space I suppose.

I'm not ever going to defend the ghastly Andrew, but "front stage" is something an exaggeration! He went to church on Christmas Day.
I think the main pictures (centre stage) were of the Wales family, and the Tindall family.

Exactly what I was thinking.

He still managed to cheat on his wife whilst being disabled.

Doesn't stop a bloke being a perv just because they are clever and in a wheelchair

Not in the least because many of them are dead.

Nope, they all went at the same time. He was there just as much as the rest. It is only the media that can't get enough of the Wales' that put their photos first.

He should not have been there at all.

The Royal Family publicly support Andrew. The church walk shows that.

Why are people shocked by Stephen Hawking? Because he was intelligent? Because he was disabled? Doesn't stop somebody being unpleasant. It's just men really isn't it

exactly @Jacfrost

Well, @WowzersSchnauzers - you think he shouldn't have been there at all, fine. (Different to front stage). However, I personally don't think anyone should be banned from church on Christmas Day, whatever they have done.
It doesn't mean to say that I wouldn't like him to face justice - that would be a good outcome of this whole wretched business.

PA could have gone to any other church or to the Christmas Eve service.

Stephen Hawking didn't shock me because his love of strippers had already been reported on. He was a regular attendee. I know that's nowhere near as disgusting, but it did make it less surprising.

Absolutely right @alltootired

More importantly - Andrew was in full (ludicrous) regalia at the coronation
No other European monarchy would dare have a coronation . Many stopped centuries ago .
But there was Andrew right there , part of the ‘ceremony’ where Charles was made head of the church and the people of the uk were literally handed to Charles to ‘protect ‘
The only person Charles is protecting is Andrew

Read the room royals having your pervert brother with you at church isn't a good look on any day of the year

What about the parents of the girls too! They should also be held accountable, let's face it, if your teen daughter said that a rich and powerful man wanted to take them to a private island, wouldn't you be concerned? The parents are equally responsible for the abuse of the girls as they ignored the abuse for money. They effectively pimped out their own children.

Yes, those girls were pimped and groomed. Their ages (legal?!) are completely irrelevant..

He was front stage @Maireas - the RF knew exactly what they were doing by allowing him (and it WAS allowing, as Charles n William knew very well they could ban him)

So say what you like, they were letting us all know their feelings to us (the plebs).

If you think an alleged sex pest/ peado/ sex attacker should be allowed in a church around young people or kids at any time (not sure why Xmas day makes a difference) , then that is your opinion. It is certainly not mine.

@LittleMissSunshiner I shall wait for the Daily Fail to bang on about it for the next week or so and put it in comic book simplicity for my tiny mind.

🤣😂🤣

I find it unbelievable that the only person punished for these crimes was a woman.

And that will be just the start of it. We know how hard he will try to inveigle himself back into public life, he must miss dress up medals feathers ermine and all of that soooo much.

And to me, it's no coincidence that the front page of Hello is taken up with Princess Charlotte and an 'exclusive report' all about how she is 'blossoming'. Anything to detract from Andrew, literally anything. Poor kid.

People are shocked by Stephen Hawking because it's a question of whether he would be physically able to do what he would be accused of doing.

And nothing will Happen to any of them

Isn't he accused of having attended an underage orgy? Or is there more? He wouldn't have needed to do anything but watch and direct. At strip clubs he'd lie on a bed and nude women would grind on top of him.

Of course, posters on a parenting forum would not be saying go along to the private island. We are loving parents who care. Do you know anything about sex trafficking? Some of these girls came from broken families, alcoholic parents, they had left home at 14, etc.

And that is why Maxwell should rot in prison, she could identify the vulnerabilities and offer them modelling contracts, training at academies in beauty, massage etc. These were not loved and stable girls.

This is worth a listen.

Epstein victim:

“I’ve spent the last 17 years in my own prison for what she and Jeffery did to me.
I was raped repeatedly. 3 times per day and I was not the only girl on the island.
There was a constant stream of girls being raped over and over again”

https://twitter.com/PlanetReportHQ/status/1742819882763157765

*@tamade ·

As others have said above the really powerful won't appear on this list, they are probably the ones compiling it and populating it with with the odd juicy morsel like Prince Andrew, who (a) we all knew about and (b) despite being royalty is an inconsequential twit.*

Nobody - even the really powerful - has compiled or populated a 'list'. Court documents have been released - from cases taken by victims of Jeffrey Epstein. The names are in those documents.

Can someone explain ? His cover was to surround himself by the rich and powerful so not all associated with him will be guilty of a crime ? So what good will the list do ?

The Christmas church walk is listed as work for the Royal Family. It is one of their official engagements. The only reason Andrew was there was to show family support for him.
And he still has his mansion. He was never moved into Frogmore cottage.

@Jacfrost

I wasn't shocked because he was intelligent or disabled. I just expected better

@Sureaseggs44

As a previous poster has said, the Miami Herald took a case in 2018 seeking the publication of documents from court cases taken by victims of Epstein. They won that case last year. Hence the publication of the documents.