The Epstein list has been released

[KenAdams]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-67865190

Complex set of documents though. Even if you can get on the site it's not easy to digest, so we watch this space I suppose.

Yep. He could've slipped in and out without all that. He chose not to. Charles and family were happy with that. Maybe they thought that having Sarah (ex wife of 30 years) there would take away from the utter crass stupidity of him there.

The Queen was ghastly too. That absurd never explain and never complain mantra was simply a ruse to not rock the status quo, which she hung onto like a limpet. Rude unpleasant woman with a massive lack of judgement.

I was so disappointed with Queen Elizabeth 2 when she had Andrew accompany her to church when the allegations against him had surfaced and the Maitlis interview had taken place.
Basically it was 2 fingers up to her subjects.
She as the head of the Church of England.

Mountbatten
Jimmy Saville
Bishop Peter Ball
Laurens Van der Post ( as a 46 year old man he sexually abused a 14 year old child and had a child with her ).

I’m no fan of Andrew, but the only way of getting into the church is via the front entrance where the royal family walk in. The church is in the grounds of Sandringham, a very short walk away from the house.

I know this has been mentioned several times but it is incorrect to state Ghislaine Maxwell is the only person to have been charged/convicted. Epstein was convicted and currently in prison awaiting trial when he “died”.

Yes, others should be prosecuted.

Yes, sadly many men behave like this irrespective of their financial status it’s often having relative power of position, more likely being male, and male entitlement. Its one reason why we have such low conviction rates for rape.

Yes, pleb males get out in prison for stealing a packet of biscuits. These lot could literally get away with murder.

@goodbyestranger I totally agree.

In Greek media, Pavlos (first son of former king Konstantine) is named as the other Prince.

Is that Marie Chantal's husband ?

Republic.org have sent an entertaining email today to the tune that they've reported Andrew Windsor to the police. They've also put out a press release detailing why.

Well, that'll be effective ...

just reading about it... funny how so many of those involved have recently died.

@therealcookiemonster oh, what a coincidence! 👀

No idea why Callum Hudson Odoi is on the list.

Some odd names on there.

1. There isn’t a list
2. He’s not been mentioned in any of the court documents or witness statements as far as I can see - happy for you to prove differently.

As per a PP, I believe it is a Greek prince, a few posts upthread someone said that is what is in the greek press

Just reading the latest updates and it seems a PP who mentioned Israeli connections may not have been far off - Ehud Barak was apparently a frequent visitor to Epstein’s various houses and there were long term rumours that Epstein was a Mossad spy running the trafficking ring to get dirt on high profile movers and shakers to use as political blackmail.

It’s not beyond the realms of possibility that it’s true and would prove that when it comes to entitled, arrogant men, it doesn’t matter how powerful or privileged they are they’ll risk everything to have sex with a young attractive woman, consensually or otherwise, and to hell with the law or decency until they get caught.

Oh Fergie

I would find it really helpful to see the names in two columns. 1. People Epstein knew - he was clearly a collector of famous people and 2. Men who are accused of sexual activity with underage or trafficked girls. Then I would like to see charges laid against column 2.

Sadly even pleb males usually get away with rape.

Is Bill Gates in the list? I recalled reading that his ex wife divorced him as a result of this scandal and his friendship with Epstein.

Republic have reported Andrew to the police in light of the revelations in these unsealed papers.

Won't go anywhere, natch but it shines a welcome spotlight on the tacit family support the odious oaf is enjoying.

True but surely he could have been walked in later like after the RF? I understand he no longer gets security because he isnt a working royal so maybe he has to be near them to get it 🤔

yes…

how depressing.

Church

For those thinking that there’s only one entrance to the christmas Church - here’s a picture showing 2 entrances. A floor plan shows there is a third - on the opposite side to the smaller second side door.

Nothing to stop Andrew slipping in unobserved, and not participating in the pap walk.

Charles seems to have wanted Andrew there. William seems to have wanted Andrew there too, because only months earlier he had been photographed driving with Andrew in the seat next to him and Kate relegated to the back seat.