What is with lip fillers?!? They look so fake and awful

[Fanofan1]

i’m probably showing my age (I’m in my 40s) but am I alone in thinking the lip filler look is just awful?

I see them all over social media and in real life when I’m around people in their 20s. Why? They look so fake.

I know it’s not our fault as women. We’re manipulated into thinking our bodies and faces are never good enough. But lip fillers are so ubiquitous and look so, so bad, I just don’t get it.

What’s the obsession with looking “natural” anyway?!

do people think it’s virtuous or something??

I'm not talking about the posters. I said they looked nice and thought they looked natural.

I'm talking about women like Alicia Douvall, Katie Price etc who have gone too far. I think it's a shame that they couldn't see they were lovely before.

That's complete and utter hogwash. It's blatant sexism but you'll never admit it.

Sexism towards men is a meaningless concept Barry. A few comments on MN that you feel are unfair to you as a man are not going to disadvantage you, or men in general, in any way or bring the patriarchy to its knees. You'll still hold the power and the privilege. So in the context of that I couldn't care less if you call me sexist. You might just as well call me a pork pie for all the meaning it has.

What's the obsession with not looking ''natural''?

It's not hogwash that she was talking to you about the dynamics of being a man complaining about women looking displeasing to you, Barry.

Is this actually what sexism, unfairness and victimhood look like to men in 2023? Astonishing. It's like my dad's still here.

Sir Whatever: "She based her look on a SEX WORKER!"

You managed to squeeze 2 misquotes into that one little sentence there.

"So you don't agree even in principle then that there are times when just because we are not prevented from doing something, it doesn't mean we shouldn't reflect a little and decide that maybe we still shouldn't? That there are times when our contribution may not be useful, relevant or appropriate?"

Yes, I agree with that, but it doesn't apply here.

"So, if I were to chime in to advise you on your ED in insulting and derogatory term, after you'd asked another man about it, that would be OK with you for example?"

Yes, because I'm not in a position to dictate who can and cannot post on a forum.

But a load of women complaining about other women looking displeasing to them is fine?

Women don't think other women are their for their viewing pleasure, Barry. That's the difference.

5128gap addressed this. It's an issue about women, affecting women. So while women clearly aren't all in agreement about it, a woman commenting on women's looks with regard to a women's issue has a very different dynamic to Barry popping up to tell us what he doesn't find sexy.

Are you even reading what she's saying?

Neither do I, despite your obvious assumption. But, aren't lesbians women? Do they take pleasure in looking at other women?

Oh, Bazza, you're such a man.

Yes, I am reading everything she's saying. Are you reading everything I'm saying? I haven't said anywhere about what I don't find "sexy".

Thank you! 😘

Are you reading everything I'm saying?

Sadly, yes. I think I need to stop before I shake my own head off. Did you really do "but lesbians"??

It is a sad indictment that women feel they have to look like this.

LuckySantangelo35 · Today 16:53
What’s the obsession with looking “natural” anyway?!
do people think it’s virtuous or something??

I think the obsession here is for lip fillers etc!

Looking more natural may not be 'virtuous' but it's perhaps more honest - especially if the treatments are dependent on being topped up all the time (I didn't know that till I read this thread). It would make me very uneasy - how embarrassing if for some reason I couldn't get the necessary work done and it all went down like a deflated balloon?

(Agree with other pps that Katie Price was incredibly pretty before all her 'work'. What a shame she couldn't see it. Lots of other people too - the tragic 'Bride of Wildenstein', who I think was married to a cosmetic surgeon and neither of them knew when to stop.)

If Marilyn Monroe had stuff done - it was a fantastic job - she never looked fake.

I think photos are a bit irrelevant- it is when someone talks that you notice something a bit odd about their mouth, even if the fillers are otherwise subtle. I would never say anything but I do inwardly sigh and assume the woman has issues or low self esteem.

The obviously done lips are different- they are plainly intended to appeal a certain market (footballer, boxer or men that admire that sort of look) so in that respect they serve a purpose, so fair enough. If your going to fuck about with your face, you may as well go for it.

Saint Dolly is the exception to everything, because she is exceptional. She looks wonderful because she is Dolly and so enveloped in her own fabulousness - but objectively, not really.

Looking more natural may not be 'virtuous' but it's perhaps more honest - especially if the treatments are dependent on being topped up all the time (I didn't know that till I read this thread). It would make me very uneasy - how embarrassing if for some reason I couldn't get the necessary work done and it all went down like a deflated balloon?

It's not the sort of "honesty" that you owe anyone or that matters. It's your body and you can style and alter it however you like. Anyone who claims that's not "honest" must think you owe them the body aesthetic they want you to have. Since you don't, it's not the kind of "honesty" that's any sort of virtue and it doesn't matter.

Fillers and Botox are temporary and wear off, like hair dye, threaded brows and painted nails. As with those, maintenance is required if you want to keep the effect. Nothing wrong with deciding against it for that reason, but unless you really did get extreme work done, your lapsed fillers and Botox are unlikely to be even half as noticeable as grey or dark roots, overgrown eyebrows or chipped nail polish.

A box of hair dye is about £10, it's a bit different to not being able to top your fillers & botox up.

But you dye your hair a lot more often than you have filler or Botox. Every three weeks or so if you're trying to maintain a root colour.

I have Botox every 12-18 months at about £120 a pop. If I got a professional cut and colour every six weeks, it would cost far more in the same time period.

Anyway, if you can afford it and want to spend your money on it, why does it matter that a different treatment costs less? It's all just stuff made up to legitimise some treatments while denigrating others.

I don't have grey hair so don't need to dye it and have a style that doesn't need cutting regularly.

Unless you do have fillers in your lips that are quite big and not natural like the posters (which looked nice) I don't know why you are getting so annoyed.

In the nicest way, I'm not talking about you and what you do and don't have done. And why do you think responding to your posts means I'm annoyed?

You said that dyeing your hair is "a bit different" to redoing fillers and Botox, and as you mentioned the price of box dye, I took that to mean "cheaper". So my response was that Botox can in fact cost less than cut and colours over a year (it definitely takes a lot less time). And even if it were more expensive, if someone can afford it and it's worth it to them, it's irrelevant that a different treatment costs less.

It's all just reading like attempts to make some treatments (eg for hair) more acceptable than others.

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