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Why won’t Egypt help the Gazans?

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antiterror · 13/10/2023 16:21

It seems the most if not the only logical solution, to set up refugee shelters in the Sinai peninsula?

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Needspace2023 · 14/10/2023 18:50

I'm not a fan of the Telegraph at all but the Left needs to wake up and stop tacitly supporting militants.

Notonthestairs · 14/10/2023 18:59

"Instead Biden gives the regime 6 billion for a prisoner swap."

Blinken -

With regard to the $6 billion. First, again, it’s always worth repeating the facts because, unfortunately, the facts get lost along the way. The money that Iran accrued in bank accounts, in this case in South Korea, for the sale of its oil, was done pursuant to an arrangement established by the previous administration — the Trump administration.

“None of the funds that have now gone to Qatar have actually been spent or accessed in any way by Iran. Indeed, funds from that account are overseen by the Treasury Department, can only be dispensed for humanitarian goods — food, medicine, medical equipment — and never touch Iranian hands. We have strict oversight of the funds and we retain the right to freeze them"

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Needspace2023 · 14/10/2023 19:02

Whatever.
It emboldens the regime when you hand over 6 billion.
Also aware Iran is actually a supremely wealthy country but the Iranian people live in poverty.

fioritura · 14/10/2023 20:51

fioritura · 14/10/2023 15:49

US want Egypt to open the crossing to get US citizens out of Gaza, Egypt refusing to do so unless hundreds of Egyptian ambulances and aid trucks lined up at the border are allowed to cross without being bombed as Israel said they would. US now negotiating.

Update: Israel refused to allow aid to pass through so US citizens still in Gaza.

fioritura · 14/10/2023 20:52

maltravers · 14/10/2023 18:48

Setting aside the question of taking refugees - a siege is only effective if maintained on all borders. Why would Egypt not supply food/water/medicine across its border (at Gaza’s expense or the international community’s). There must be a reason…what is it? Sorry if I’m duplicating someone else’s question btw.

Israel has said it will bomb all aid trucks that cross the border.

StarDolphins · 14/10/2023 20:57

who wants Hamas? Most probably nobody. I wouldn’t.

StarDolphins · 14/10/2023 20:59

russetapple · 13/10/2023 17:29

The sad and ugly truth is that many Palestinians do support Hamas.

I think sadly this is very true.

StarDolphins · 14/10/2023 21:00

TomeTome · 13/10/2023 16:31

Why don’t we?

Why on earth would we?

StarDolphins · 14/10/2023 21:08

RudsyFarmer · 13/10/2023 21:08

We have plenty of room in the UK so we could airlift them out I’m sure.

Great idea. We always need terrorists🙄

verdantverdure · 14/10/2023 21:27

antiterror · 13/10/2023 16:21

It seems the most if not the only logical solution, to set up refugee shelters in the Sinai peninsula?

We should probably look to get our own house in order first.

Tory MP and former chair of the Foreign Affairs Select Committee Crispin Blunt says the U.K. government is in danger of being complicit in the commission of war crimes by the Israeli government.

Throughabushbackwards · 14/10/2023 21:38

From the Washington Post:

"... the question of whether to permit large numbers of Palestinians to exit Gaza to Egypt has revived a decades-old dilemma for Cairo. The government is concerned about security in the Sinai region and wants to avoid being seen as complicit in a campaign that could force Palestinians out of Gaza for good"

Tryingmybestadhd · 14/10/2023 23:31

fioritura · 14/10/2023 20:52

Israel has said it will bomb all aid trucks that cross the border.

That’s a lie , they openly said yesterday that counties are free to give aid

fioritura · 14/10/2023 23:46

Tryingmybestadhd · 14/10/2023 23:31

That’s a lie , they openly said yesterday that counties are free to give aid

Why are you lying?

The negotiations between the US, Israel and Egypt today were based on aid trucks being able to get into the Gaza Strip. Egypt said they would open the Rafah crossing to let US citizens out of Gaza if they can send aid in without it being bombed by Israel. The US requested this, Israel refused and said no aid.

BelleHathor · 15/10/2023 00:01

fioritura · 14/10/2023 23:46

Why are you lying?

The negotiations between the US, Israel and Egypt today were based on aid trucks being able to get into the Gaza Strip. Egypt said they would open the Rafah crossing to let US citizens out of Gaza if they can send aid in without it being bombed by Israel. The US requested this, Israel refused and said no aid.

The lying is an attempt to gaslight and discredit you.

The ability to control the narrative is failing due to social media debunking outrageous claims in real time, forcing the media to actually do some reporting.

Beyondshock · 15/10/2023 00:09

Instead of the OP asking why won’t Egypt open the border and why won’t the indigenous of the land move on and become refugees. You need to ask why won’t Israel stop massacring the Palestinians. Why are forcing them to become refugees?

Beyondshock · 15/10/2023 00:09

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Shopgirl1 · 15/10/2023 00:16

That really is the question. It’s not about why Egypt can’t or won’t open borders. The fundamental question is why are Israel bombing the place to bits and leading to so many innocent people needing to flee their homeland. Why is the world standing by and allowing this horrendous collective punishment?

fioritura · 15/10/2023 00:17

BelleHathor · 15/10/2023 00:01

The lying is an attempt to gaslight and discredit you.

The ability to control the narrative is failing due to social media debunking outrageous claims in real time, forcing the media to actually do some reporting.

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They’re so brazen! Straight up “that’s a lie” like there isn’t multiple official sources online to back up what I’m saying…

JamSandle · 15/10/2023 00:21

jenpil · 13/10/2023 17:48

Egypt has a huge population and very poor people, without adding Gazans into the mix too.

I don't think the Egyptian people would appreciate it.

Why don't Saudi or the UAE or another rich islamic country ever help out?

Bingo! UAE needs to get involved.

Heelenahandbasket · 15/10/2023 00:24

MatthewsMumFromTikTok · 13/10/2023 16:29

Who knows? Maybe Egypt are currently working on it?

Lol. No, the Egyptians do not want any refugees from the conflict crossing into Egypt and don’t want to import hamas.

Heelenahandbasket · 15/10/2023 00:27

fioritura · 14/10/2023 23:46

Why are you lying?

The negotiations between the US, Israel and Egypt today were based on aid trucks being able to get into the Gaza Strip. Egypt said they would open the Rafah crossing to let US citizens out of Gaza if they can send aid in without it being bombed by Israel. The US requested this, Israel refused and said no aid.

Utterly untrue. Israel has never said it would bomb aid trucks. Nor has Israel ever said it would bomb Egypt. Stop lying

soddingspiderseason · 15/10/2023 00:27

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Ridiculous comment. They have no choice. Hamas declared war and committed atrocities. Do you expect Israel to just sit there waiting for the rapists and murderers to return? Hamas are Jihadi terrorists intent on killing every Jew and annihilating the state of Israel. The only ones salivating are Hamas and Iran.

fioritura · 15/10/2023 00:32

Heelenahandbasket · 15/10/2023 00:27

Utterly untrue. Israel has never said it would bomb aid trucks. Nor has Israel ever said it would bomb Egypt. Stop lying

Why do people do this like I can’t just hop on google and bring the receipts?

Israel threatened to bomb aid:

https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20231010-israel-threatens-to-bomb-egypt-aid-trucks-heading-to-gaza/amp/

No deal reached to send aid in, get US citizens out:

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/more-aid-flights-arrive-egypts-sinai-awaiting-passage-gaza-2023-10-14/

Babyroobs · 15/10/2023 00:33

antiterror · 13/10/2023 17:23

Thanks, it makes a little more sense now.

Even if they could take the infants and nursing mothers, let MSF in?

I read somewhere that there are 50K pregnant women in Gaza currently. Out of a population of possibly 1 million women.

Beyondshock · 15/10/2023 00:33

Is that right? Well, there’s most probably going to be a ground incursion. And the drs and patients haven’t left the hospital because it’s IMPOSSIBLE….. there’s no electricity there’s no water there’s no food. Whose salivating? Not only for land..but also for blood.

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