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Thread 31 Sunak: Court, Conflicts and Complications

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DuncinToffee · 10/10/2023 08:40

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Notonthestairs · 09/11/2023 11:47

It certainly indicates that she has - or believes she has - authority over the Prime Minister.

jgw1 · 09/11/2023 12:10

Notonthestairs · 09/11/2023 11:47

It certainly indicates that she has - or believes she has - authority over the Prime Minister.

Politically the Home Secretary is being utterly stupid. Earlier in the week the headlines were about Labour tying themselves in knots about the difference between a pause and a ceasefire. Braverman has very successfully removed that from the news cycle. Do you think Starmer has sent her a thank you note?

Notonthestairs · 09/11/2023 12:16

Braverman isn't interested in winning the next election.

In fact if the Conservatives/Sunak win I suspect she'd be very disappointed.

DuncinToffee · 09/11/2023 12:17

Rishi Sunak’s spox says Suella Braverman’s explosive op ed was “not agreed by No 10”.

Asked how PM could have full confidence in her if she was going round writing “rogue articles”, he responded: “We are looking into what happened in this instance around the op ed. We will update if appropriate”.

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IClaudine · 09/11/2023 12:26

If Sunak doesn't sack her, he looks fatally weak.

jgw1 · 09/11/2023 12:39

IClaudine · 09/11/2023 12:26

If Sunak doesn't sack her, he looks fatally weak.

He has put himself in a bind by appointing her in the first place.
Sack her and the letters of no confidence start arriving in greater numbers from that wing of the party.
Don't sack her and the letters of no confidence start arriving in greater numbers from the more centralist wing of the party, although perhaps being more aware they realise that another undemocratic PM appointment wouldn't do them any favours.

Notonthestairs · 09/11/2023 12:41

Reports that the amendments required by No 10 weren't minor ones - makes it all the more interesting that he didn't start the day by rejecting her column.

IClaudine · 09/11/2023 13:02

Sunak could get out of the sack her/don't sack her conundrum by calling a GE! (A girl can dream).

DuncinToffee · 09/11/2023 13:09

Priti Patel is giving evidence at the Covid Inquiry

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DuncinToffee · 09/11/2023 13:12

Rwanda courr case

Judgment will be handed down on Wednesday 15 November in the ‘Rwanda Appeals.

https://x.com/lizziedearden/status/1722583374592680064?s=20

The Supreme Court has reached its judgment on the Rwanda case faster than expected

It was anticipated to take up to two months, but done and dusted in five weeks

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MrTiddlesTheCat · 09/11/2023 15:02

DuncinToffee · 09/11/2023 13:12

Rwanda courr case

Judgment will be handed down on Wednesday 15 November in the ‘Rwanda Appeals.

https://x.com/lizziedearden/status/1722583374592680064?s=20

The Supreme Court has reached its judgment on the Rwanda case faster than expected

It was anticipated to take up to two months, but done and dusted in five weeks

I hope to God the Supreme Court comes down on the side of humanity. This scheme terrifies me.

itsgettingweird · 09/11/2023 16:17

IClaudine · 09/11/2023 09:12

Totally agree Notonthestairs. Braverman is provoking the situation in the hope that there will be trouble. She is sending out a bat signal to troublemakers from all parts of the political spectrum. If she succeeds, then she will ban the marches.

The photo on her FB page with the poppies is nauseating and about as genuine as my cat when it is trying to scrounge a second breakfast. She is not being subtle about her plans for Tory leadership, is she? She is making Sunak look like a complete fool.

God, I hate her.

She is winding up all those who live in our constituency who I chat too lately too.

Most people who were indifferent to her are now openly stating she's an embarrassment and doesn't represent us. There is hope she'll be gone 🤞

She seems to have said one word too much lately.

itsgettingweird · 09/11/2023 16:18

RafaistheKingofClay · 09/11/2023 09:47

How bad was the stuff that had to be edited out given what made it in?

Excellent question.

dontcallmelen · 09/11/2023 16:39

itsgettingweird · 09/11/2023 16:18

Excellent question.

That’s what I was wondering as well.
Really hope that’s the case itsgettingweird she is truly foul.

Cheguevarahamster · 09/11/2023 16:49

Suella Watch - 👀
Andrew Marr: "one very senior Tory says a reshuffle is coming, Braverman will not survive it. talks in Number Ten today.More at 6"

RafaistheKingofClay · 09/11/2023 17:00

Reshuffle has to be the most sensible option available to him I’d have thought. Allows him to get rid of her without getting rid of only her.

Although I will still await her ‘why I was sacked from Sunak’s government’ column.

TrashedSofa · 09/11/2023 17:02

RafaistheKingofClay · 09/11/2023 17:00

Reshuffle has to be the most sensible option available to him I’d have thought. Allows him to get rid of her without getting rid of only her.

Although I will still await her ‘why I was sacked from Sunak’s government’ column.

I expect it'll be a guilty pleasure for many of us!

DuncinToffee · 09/11/2023 18:24

Musical chairs again then, rumours are that Gove wants the HO job.

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Notonthestairs · 09/11/2023 18:31

I know I sound like a miserable old sod but I think given Braverman's rhetoric her being fired will increase the potential for trouble on Saturday. There are snippets on Twitter that I won't link or amplify that are quite excited about # istandwithsuella etc.

It's already a very difficult couple days of policing - and that will be intensified if other groups declare themselves protecting the Cenotaph in place of the police for example.
I am concerned for (almost) all involved.

Unless a new HS can immediately move to calm things down?

Braverman should have stayed sacked after she leaked confidential information.

Notonthestairs · 09/11/2023 19:04

Interesting timing? 👀

Am I the only one thinking there is a possible link between @SuellaBraverman forcing @RishiSunak to sack her as #HomeSecretary before @UKSupremeCourt delivers #Rwanda judgment next Wednesday …?

x.com/s_chelvan/status/1722672643369795618?s=46&t=Uw4lJNwxFZFnX0Xs3doHYg

Please note I have no idea whether they would get a copy of the judgement in advance!

Notonthestairs · 09/11/2023 19:08

Ignore my last post - it hasn't and won't be released.

L1ttledrummergirl · 09/11/2023 19:08

itsgettingweird · 09/11/2023 16:17

She is winding up all those who live in our constituency who I chat too lately too.

Most people who were indifferent to her are now openly stating she's an embarrassment and doesn't represent us. There is hope she'll be gone 🤞

She seems to have said one word too much lately.

I can't imagine any of my friends in her constituency voting for her. Especially if my Facebook feed is anything to go by.

Please can the reshuffle include a new PM as well?

DuncinToffee · 09/11/2023 19:09

Jenrick and Dowden, keep them away

https://x.com/NatashaC/status/1722689517876838793?s=20
Possible replacements for Braverman tonight being spoken about include...

Robert Jenrick
Victoria Atkins
Oliver Dowden
Tom Tugendhat
Jeremy Quinn

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Notonthestairs · 09/11/2023 19:14

Sunak always wanted Dowden didn't he?

I particularly dislike Dowden & Jenrick for being patronising & oily.

DuncinToffee · 09/11/2023 19:49

From the same thread

As revealed by @AndrewMarr9 , some Tory MPs tonight think this is all because Braverman wants to call to leave the ECHR next week if they lose the Rwanda Supreme Court challenge, but the PM doesn't want to do so. Could put her up to resign in blaze of glory...

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