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Thread 31 Sunak: Court, Conflicts and Complications

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DuncinToffee · 10/10/2023 08:40

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DuncinToffee · 06/11/2023 11:38

Prime Minister Rishi Sunak has described allegations that a Tory MP committed a series of rapes as “very serious” as he urged anyone with evidence of criminal acts to talk to the police

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jgw1 · 06/11/2023 11:54

DuncinToffee · 06/11/2023 11:38

Prime Minister Rishi Sunak has described allegations that a Tory MP committed a series of rapes as “very serious” as he urged anyone with evidence of criminal acts to talk to the police

Does that mean that Sunak is going to talk to the police about the criminal acts in breaking Covid law he repeatedly witnessed in Downing Street during the pandemic?

DuncinToffee · 06/11/2023 12:22

But according to the article Jack Berry already wrote the police Confused

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Zonder · 06/11/2023 12:49

DuncinToffee · 06/11/2023 11:38

Prime Minister Rishi Sunak has described allegations that a Tory MP committed a series of rapes as “very serious” as he urged anyone with evidence of criminal acts to talk to the police

What does he have to say to the women on twitter who say they already spoke to senior staff in parliament and to the police and nothing happened?

Roussette · 06/11/2023 12:57

DuncinToffee · 06/11/2023 11:37

What a surprise
Not

SoMuchSimpler · 06/11/2023 13:13

AdamRyan · 06/11/2023 11:22

I assumed it is the same person as this
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/top-tory-mp-faces-drink-27030008.amp and they both relate to the MP who recently named himself

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/oct/26/conservative-mp-arrested-on-suspicion-of-rape-and-drugs-possession

Hopefully there are not multiple MPs going round with date rape drugs in the HoC Confused

Aren't those two different people anyway?

The first is, I think, the MP who was told to stay away from Parliament in 2022. The MP whose constituency is in London but almost in Essex. He was arrested in May 2022 I think.

The second is Crispin Blunt, who's been attending Parliament until very recently (he recently slapped slapped Bridgen on the back of the head and called him a bastard at Portcullis House) He was arrested recently.

I think this latest one must be another one entirely.

SoMuchSimpler · 06/11/2023 13:27

Both those stories involve allegations of offences against men. Berry's letter is reported as saying “We are aware that this matter has been ongoing for over two years. We also believe there are up to five victims of X and that the failure of others to act has enabled X to continue to offend and to victimise women.”

AdamRyan · 06/11/2023 15:05

Oh i missed that
In that case Shock.
I miss the days when the sexual shenanigans were toe sucking between consensual adults

SoMuchSimpler · 06/11/2023 15:16

I must admit I'm surprised that the the May 2022 arrest allegations are about assaults on men. I don't remember that at the time and he seems a bit of a homophobe - this from Wikipedia:

Rosindell has consistently voted against bills furthering LGBT rights, including equalising the age of consent, civil partnerships and scrapping Section 28 of the Local Government Act 1988, which banned teachers from "promoting homosexuality" or "teaching ... the acceptability of homosexuality as a pretended family relationship". He has said, "I do not believe that politicians should interfere with and attempt to redefine ancient customs, traditions and ceremonies, most of which are based on religious foundations and have been in existence through the ages."

In 2013, Rosindell opposed the legalisation of same-sex marriage, stating: "Where would it end? You could finish up at a stage where the monarchy in this country is in a same-sex marriage and that would have constitutional implications."

pointythings · 06/11/2023 15:20

I'm not surprised at all. Internalised homophobia exists.

SoMuchSimpler · 06/11/2023 15:35

Ah, it looks like the "Top Tory MP faces drink spiking claims as victim 'woke up to find nipples being licked'" referred to at the top of the article https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/top-tory-mp-faces-drink-27030008.amp  isn't necessarily the same person as referred to at the bottom of the article "The latest claims were being talked about last week in Commons bars and coffee shops after an unnamed Tory MP was arrested and bailed last week."

So the "unnamed Tory MP" (AR) who was arrested may not be the same person who was alleged to be doing the male date-raping.

Just how many of these fuckers are there?

AdamRyan · 06/11/2023 16:37

I'm totally confused now as I thought the Unnamed MP (AR) hadn't been allowed in the commons since his first arrest, but the Jake Berry letter sounds like whoever he was talking about was still allowed, so can't be the same person.

I wonder if it's the old Unnamed Cabinet Minister from 2020 who had charges dropped...

AdamRyan · 06/11/2023 16:37

I really don't see why these men get to be anonymous. Not only does it protect rapists, it also means now it looks like the Conservatives are infested with sex pests

RafaistheKingofClay · 06/11/2023 17:11

SoMuchSimpler · 06/11/2023 13:13

Aren't those two different people anyway?

The first is, I think, the MP who was told to stay away from Parliament in 2022. The MP whose constituency is in London but almost in Essex. He was arrested in May 2022 I think.

The second is Crispin Blunt, who's been attending Parliament until very recently (he recently slapped slapped Bridgen on the back of the head and called him a bastard at Portcullis House) He was arrested recently.

I think this latest one must be another one entirely.

I think the first mirror article refers to 2 different MPs. The date rape drug guy it’s referring to isn’t the one who was arrested and told to stay away from Parliament. I think there’s an article from a different paper at around the same time that made it a bit clearer.

That doesn’t rule out Blunt as date rape guy but it could be the guy being talked about now.

jgw1 · 06/11/2023 18:11

Zonder · 06/11/2023 12:49

What does he have to say to the women on twitter who say they already spoke to senior staff in parliament and to the police and nothing happened?

Probably reassure them that he knows what a woman is.

Passepartoute · 06/11/2023 18:48

If I were one of the relatively few male Conservative MPs able to keep his hands (and other parts of the body) to himself, I'd be quite pissed off that names aren't being publicised.

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RafaistheKingofClay · 06/11/2023 20:21

Don’t suppose Farage will be giving her an apology.

New European front cover not pulling any punches this week.

Thread 31 Sunak: Court, Conflicts and Complications
AdamRyan · 06/11/2023 22:03

Oh what a surprise
I almost feel like resurrecting an old thread to post that on

DuncinToffee · 06/11/2023 22:09

Mark Spencer was Chief Whip when this woman reported her rape and he told her to get over it

x.com/rpaton11/status/1721306014505427026?s=20

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AdamRyan · 07/11/2023 09:25

https://twitter.com/jdportes/status/1721316212255396296

This seems like a good illustration of the full fact quote above - Badenoch is attempting to say Brexit hasn't hurt the economy, using figures not adjusted for inflation

https://twitter.com/jdportes/status/1721316212255396296

AdamRyan · 07/11/2023 09:26

DuncinToffee · 06/11/2023 22:09

Mark Spencer was Chief Whip when this woman reported her rape and he told her to get over it

x.com/rpaton11/status/1721306014505427026?s=20

JFC. What a brave woman. I hope the press pick this up

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