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Any Bake Off fans feeling a little queasy...

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CurlewKate · 20/09/2023 16:50

.....this year? It's one of my favourite shows but I'm not sure if I'm going to watch it.

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EasternStandard · 20/09/2023 18:52

Wendysfriend · 20/09/2023 18:49

Oh FGS, you're saying you and everyone else knew Russell Brand was an alleged rapist going back to lock down... Even though the women only came forward recently. Yeah right.

I agree with you. There was a reason the programme caused such interest

PhantomUnicorn · 20/09/2023 18:52

sjj28358 · 20/09/2023 17:14

Noel Fielding dated Pixie Geldof when she was 16 and he was in his 30s.

Why on earth would you state something like this as fact when he's denied it, she has denied it, and its never been proven?

RampantIvy · 20/09/2023 18:53

I see that the rumour mill is alive and well.

Interested in this thread?

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BananaMariana · 20/09/2023 18:53

CurlewKate · 20/09/2023 18:33

"Okay. Except we only found out the allegations last week. We have to imagine that Noel did too. Unless you have proof otherwise?"

I think it's extremely unlikely that Fielding found out last week when everyone else has known for years! Including me-and I am as far from the celebrity world as it is possible to be.

I notice you haven't commented on the rape joke?

If you've known for years that Russel Brand had been raping people, I hope you went to the police with your evidence!!

PhantomUnicorn · 20/09/2023 18:57

Is this how it works now, Trial by social media, taking down anyone and everyone thats vaguely associated with RB?

fkin ridiculous. grow up, and i hope NF's lawyers don't catch onto this thread.

SpidersAreShitheads · 20/09/2023 18:58

ManateeFair · 20/09/2023 18:28

I don't think anyone really knows whether they actually dated. There was one gossip piece at the time which made a reference to them 'canoodling' or something at one event at a club in Camden. It was a rumour but I don't think it was ever confirmed.

Pixie Geldof as well as being over the age of consent, at the time was a model and an 'it girl' on the London party scene, who was out drinking in pubs and clubs and also dated a man in his 20s that year. Much like Kate Moss and a lot of other famous girls on the London social scene at that time, she was leading a very adult lifestyle from the age of 14-15 onwards, working and hanging out with adult friends. Do I think that's a good thing? No. But it wasn't actually unusual at the time.

I don't think that Noel Fielding (possibly) dating Pixie Geldof (who was part of his social circle and a regular on the social scene and in all the gossip mags, and was to all intents and purposes living the life of an adult woman and hanging out with both his male and female friends) is remotely equivalent to Russell Brand deliberately grooming a very naive teenager who had never had a boyfriend, who he'd never met and was not in showbusiness and was shopping with her mates in Topshop when he approached her, and then encouraging her to read Lolita, fetishising her virginity, sending cars to her school to take her out of lessons and bring her to his house for sex, and violently sexually assaulting her. I'm sorry, but the two situations are just not the same.

^^Very much this.

What Brand did was abhorrent but there have been whispers about him being a thoroughly unpleasant man for many years. In his own autobiography he admits to, and details, vile things that he's said and done. We just didn't know the full extent of his behaviour, which turns out to be far worse than we all suspected.

You don't have to like Noel Fielding's humour. He's always had slightly quirky, offbeat humour that wasn't mainstream so I thought he was an odd pick for Bake Off. But anecdotally, he's always seemed like a nice person. There have never been any suggestions about lecherous behaviour and people who have met him in real life have always described him in positive terms. He often pops up on the "what nice celebrities have you met in real life" type threads.

I don't think there's anything to cancel him for. You don't have to like him, but that's not the same thing.

I've seen NF on lots of shows like Buzzcocks etc and he doesn't normally make rape jokes etc - that's just not his usual humour. His jokes are usually a bit weirder - think The Mighty Boosh, a show that he co-wrote.

But if he did make a rape joke when paired with Brand, I'm not going to cancel him based on that. Writing off a person on the basis of one joke seems excessive, imo. Also, it would be hypocritical of me because I like Jimmy Carr and his jokes are way darker/more offensive, and have definitely included rape jokes at one point.

I think with Brand, making rape jokes is more offensive given his general misogynistic attitude to women. It's like the difference between Chris Rock making a joke about black men, and Bernard Manning making a joke about black men. Chris Rock you know it's definitely 100% just a joke with no malice or ill-intent - whereas with Bernard Manning you know that it's probably a "joke" but also his true feelings. Brand falls into the latter category - making "jokes" that actually are nothing more than a statement of what he actually thinks.

Having said all of that, I'm not sure about Alison Hammond anyway so that might be the decider for me.

DeadButDelicious · 20/09/2023 18:59

The whole Pixie and Noel thing was reported on quite extensively at the time, it's hardly news. It was dismissed by both of them as rumours. Unless Pixie comes out now with a different version of events then there really is nothing to see.

AllOfThemWitches · 20/09/2023 19:00

You don't have to like Noel Fielding's humour. He's always had slightly quirky, offbeat humour that wasn't mainstream so I thought he was an odd pick for Bake Off. But anecdotally, he's always seemed like a nice person. There have never been any suggestions about lecherous behaviour and people who have met him in real life have always described him in positive terms. He often pops up on the "what nice celebrities have you met in real life" type threads.

'Nice' men don't date schoolgirls 😆

icallitasplodge · 20/09/2023 19:00

Brand was on the show before the problems emerged
on the show when C4 were investigating the concerns
on the show when C4 ignored previous complaints about him

Guilty or not, seems a bit rich of C4

CherryMaDeara · 20/09/2023 19:00

misssunshine4040 · 20/09/2023 18:45

That joke with Russell, Noel and Jonathan Ross wasn't mocking rape or laughing at people being raped.
It was about Noel dressed in cape and others saying he looks like Jack the Ripper etc
The context is important.

Why are you lying? Do you think you're the only one with access to YouTube?

Wossy complains that the show have put the 'only sexually attractive woman near two cocksmen in the businss' (Noel and RB), and moves her so 'she can go home with her dress still on'.

Noel says 'we're not rapists'. RB says no link between cape and rape and if Noel hasn't done a rape then you've ruined his reputation. He then asks Noel 'have you done a rape?'

Of course it's mocking rape.

Childcarequestionn · 20/09/2023 19:01

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spottedinthewilds · 20/09/2023 19:01

When is it on?

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16yo girls are generally schoolgirls...

EuphemiaFuckaduck · 20/09/2023 19:02

cruffinsmuffin · 20/09/2023 17:37

Noel does look like a Poundland RB, which is impressive considering how cheap RB looks.

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Doobydoo · 20/09/2023 19:04

I stopped watching a few seasons ago. I really am not keen on Alison Hammond...I think she and Holly Willoughby(I know she's not presenting it) have shark eyes...when they think cameras not on them the mask drops...gives me the creeps. Also her fake laugh

Slimerrr · 20/09/2023 19:05

CurlewKate · 20/09/2023 18:33

"Okay. Except we only found out the allegations last week. We have to imagine that Noel did too. Unless you have proof otherwise?"

I think it's extremely unlikely that Fielding found out last week when everyone else has known for years! Including me-and I am as far from the celebrity world as it is possible to be.

I notice you haven't commented on the rape joke?

I worked with a rapist. We hung out after work, went drinking. He was lovely, a kind and gentle guy who was so funny.

Except that he was a rapist and people were talking about it and I didn’t know. Someone told me about the allegations and even though I just couldn’t imagine it, I cut him out of my life because the suggestions were too much.

My point is, I didn’t know until I knew, even though we spent a lot of time together. Maybe Fielding had heard the rumours, but maybe Brand had unsuited the same sorts of things that he has to all his followers who blindly believe him. We can’t go around pointing fingers at everyone around a person assuming they knew. We hear about men serial rapists and their own family have no idea what’s going on.

Starlightstarbright2 · 20/09/2023 19:05

Lochroy · 20/09/2023 16:59

What's the problem with Noel Fielding? This is like a really shit game of 20 questions.

Honestly . I have just finished a long day at work feel exactly the same ..

Slimerrr · 20/09/2023 19:06

However, I will say that I haven’t seen the footage of the rape jokes and for that, you are 100% correct.

misssunshine4040 · 20/09/2023 19:07

@CherryMaDeara no need to be rude, of course I'm not the only one with access to you tube.
I don't think they are not mocking rape. They are quite clearly saying they are NOT rapists as that is clearly a bad thing and would rather be called a serial killer and the jokes have come from that.

Are we cancelling jimmy Carr who's humour is farrrrrrrrr darker, in fact one of his jokes calls rape a "struggle snuggle "

Medusaismyhero · 20/09/2023 19:07

Oh for god's sake 🙄

CherryMaDeara · 20/09/2023 19:07

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I didn't say it was on Noel?

The poster implied it was just a joke about a cape/serial killer, when it wasn't, it was primarily about rape.

beguilingeyes · 20/09/2023 19:08

I still miss Mel and Sue. Funny, interested and kind.
I used to love Bake Off. It seems to be dying by a thousand cuts. I can't bear Noel. Alison Hammond makes my teeth hurt. All the ridiculous themed weeks. It's like C4 are just trying too hard.
I loved Nadiya too. Her mango lassi Bircher muesli is one of the nicest things I've ever eaten.

Blondebutnotlegally · 20/09/2023 19:08

Meh, I've made some shit jokes in my time. Never meant a word. I guess how stupid and shocking they are is why people find them funny? Ricky Gervais does a good bit on it in his stand up, talking about laughing at dark things to make light of shitty situations.

I don't think we can vilify someone based on a distasteful joke and some tabloid rumours.

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