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How do British Parents feel about...

331 replies

TooBigForMyBoots · 09/08/2023 19:13

...the Brexit vote, given how it has disadvantaged those children without dual nationality?

I'm from NI, so very fortunate that mine still have FOM. I'd be raging if anyone took that away from them.

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RavingStyle · 09/08/2023 19:17

Absolutely furious. I can hardly believed it's happened.

Sirzy · 09/08/2023 19:17

It is yet another negative of brexit. Like most of the others should have been easily foreseen as an issue.

WestwardHo1 · 09/08/2023 19:18

All those correctly predicted things that were glibly dismissed as Project Fear.

Comedycook · 09/08/2023 19:19

Honestly I don't give it any thought

LimeCheesecake · 09/08/2023 19:20

DH has the career he has because when he was a new graduate, he was able to get a role in Luxembourg due to free movement of people.

however my eldest is early teens, I really wouldn’t be surprised if we’ve gone a bit more Norway and accepted FOM by the time he’s early 20s.

(The Tories have already given up the next election- Sunak just had a lunch with his immediate family that cost more than a state pensioner gets in a year, that is not the action of a man who has eyes on the prize)

AuntieJune · 09/08/2023 19:21

It's just one extra turd on a mountain of nationalistic Brexit shit

OnlyFoolsnMothers · 09/08/2023 19:22

I don’t think about it- equally I don’t worry about the fact they can’t just go and work in America or Australia or Singapore or….etc without paperwork.

i worry far more about the general state of the U.K.- the chance to go and live in another country has always been for the more privileged

Simonjt · 09/08/2023 19:23

I was fairly pissed off due to the lack of freedom of movement, so I married a Swede and got our kids an EU passport. I’ll have to wait a few years for mine.

FoodFann · 09/08/2023 19:28

I feel like the world has closed its doors to the UK. The world has shrunk. And we are stuck in a very small place.

Like it was the ‘good old days’ just a few years ago, when we all had the opportunity to live and work anywhere in Europe. I took this opportunity, as did most of my family and friends.

TeenDivided · 09/08/2023 19:32

I don't think about it day to day as neither of my DC were likely to be in a position to take advantage of freedom of movement.

However now you have made me think of it, it is a shame, but sadly a majority of those who voted, voted to leave, so we are where we are.

Instead of rehashing old arguments, we need to make the best of our current position somehow.

MyMachineAndMe · 09/08/2023 19:35

It fucks me right off. However, my being angry about it not going to achieve anything on its own; the only thing I can really do is sign the petitions and vote for anyone but the Tories. Otherwise, I don't think of it.

TinyRebel · 09/08/2023 19:38

Really gutted for my younger children. I loved living and working (and paying taxes) in Europe without university qualifications and they won’t be able to do the same. My eldest has the benefit of dual nationality, so the the inequality will be very marked.

I’m so angry at the Brexit voters. Their utter stupidity and ignorance is unforgivable.

PickoftheMix · 09/08/2023 19:40

OnlyFoolsnMothers · 09/08/2023 19:22

I don’t think about it- equally I don’t worry about the fact they can’t just go and work in America or Australia or Singapore or….etc without paperwork.

i worry far more about the general state of the U.K.- the chance to go and live in another country has always been for the more privileged

Absolutely this.

MrsTerryPratchett · 09/08/2023 19:43

OnlyFoolsnMothers · 09/08/2023 19:22

I don’t think about it- equally I don’t worry about the fact they can’t just go and work in America or Australia or Singapore or….etc without paperwork.

i worry far more about the general state of the U.K.- the chance to go and live in another country has always been for the more privileged

Cobblers.

Ask the Scots and Irish. Or the Poles or Jamaicans for that matters. Travelling for work is very normal for non-privileged people. Always has been.

I'd argue it's quite privileged to be able to afford to live in the same place as family with all the support and social life that affords.

My Scottish FIL was down the mines at 14. He travelled to get less dangerous, better paid work.

Comedycook · 09/08/2023 19:45

I voted to leave....I'm actually pro freedom of movement... however I believe it can only work if the countries are economically similar. I do not feel that many of the EE countries were ready to join and that is imo where the tide started to turn. My great fear with the EU was even poorer countries joining... Albania, Moldova etc. It will happen at some point I'm sure. I voted leave reluctantly.

MrsF111 · 09/08/2023 19:45

But they still can? Either on a student visa if they are studying there or a work visa, they could also go for 90 days visa free while they found a job then got the work visa. It’s certainly harder now but not impossible. Just the same as traveling to the rest of the world.

Miajk · 09/08/2023 19:45

Comedycook · 09/08/2023 19:45

I voted to leave....I'm actually pro freedom of movement... however I believe it can only work if the countries are economically similar. I do not feel that many of the EE countries were ready to join and that is imo where the tide started to turn. My great fear with the EU was even poorer countries joining... Albania, Moldova etc. It will happen at some point I'm sure. I voted leave reluctantly.

Did your disdain for poor foreigners make it worth suffering the consequences?

Mumsgirls · 09/08/2023 19:46

Just thanking god for my lovely Irish Dad, gave me automatic Irish citizen ship. I could register my children and they two could have dual Irish and uk citizenship and passports. Just sorry others their age have lost freedom of movement. Have not seen any benefits so far only loss

Mumsgirls · 09/08/2023 19:47

too( typo)

PuttingDownRoots · 09/08/2023 19:47

Annoyed really.

My eldest was born in Germany. Whenever was born it was questions like what countries could she play in the national team for.
Not will she have the right to actually live in the Country she was born in! (She can't, no claim on German nationality)

FourEyesGood · 09/08/2023 19:47

I’m angry.

Louloulouenna · 09/08/2023 19:47

Far far more Brits live and work in Australia, Canada and the USA than EU counties.

continentallentil · 09/08/2023 19:48

Angry and sad

Remembermynamealways · 09/08/2023 19:48

I couldn’t care any less.
DD is doing work experience in Australia
Other DD planning to apply to NY
Everywhere needs paperwork, so it makes no difference at all.

RavingStyle · 09/08/2023 19:48

MrsF111 · 09/08/2023 19:45

But they still can? Either on a student visa if they are studying there or a work visa, they could also go for 90 days visa free while they found a job then got the work visa. It’s certainly harder now but not impossible. Just the same as traveling to the rest of the world.

It's not as easy to get a visa as you seem to think. It's not just a case of finding a job.

My DD was able to get a visa to work in the Netherlands a couple of years ago, but only because she was "highly skilled"; you can't just go and, for example, work in a bar indefinitely.