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How do British Parents feel about...

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TooBigForMyBoots · 09/08/2023 19:13

...the Brexit vote, given how it has disadvantaged those children without dual nationality?

I'm from NI, so very fortunate that mine still have FOM. I'd be raging if anyone took that away from them.

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Hubblebubble · 09/08/2023 20:12

Being tied to an employer by your visa opens you up to exploitation. My first workplace in Asia refused to give us our lunchbreak, there was nothing we could do.

HRTQueen · 09/08/2023 20:12

there are bigger issues around Brexit that concern me far more and they impact us all

for is to work abroad it’s far more about an experience or wanting to earn more money it’s not the same as economic workers (as my dad was)

I honestly felt quite embarrassed about the parents moaning at ds school the day after Brexit vote thag their children wouldn’t be able to study in Europe (they mostly are now) when there are far bigger issues

HotPringles · 09/08/2023 20:13

Remembermynamealways · 09/08/2023 19:48

I couldn’t care any less.
DD is doing work experience in Australia
Other DD planning to apply to NY
Everywhere needs paperwork, so it makes no difference at all.

I think the people who say it’s tte same and it doesn’t matter haven’t actually ever experienced the ease of moving to another country in the EU then.

There was no paperwork. There was no hoops to jump.
That’s why it benefitted the U.K. so much re cheap labour and access to professionals (as well as research).

Of course, SOME PEOPLE will still be able to emigrate (but you have to wonder why they are so keen to do so).
But we should t fool ourselves saying it’s the same.

CharlotteStreetW1 · 09/08/2023 20:14

WestwardHo1 · 09/08/2023 19:18

All those correctly predicted things that were glibly dismissed as Project Fear.

This made me more angry than the result itself and people still think they "knew what they were voting for". I'd like every one of those liars lined up and tarred and feathered and I'm normally a very gentle soul.

LadyWithLapdog · 09/08/2023 20:15

DC will start looking for jobs in Europe after the Summer holidays. A couple of languages and a EU country passport should help. Sure, further away than Aberdeen, let’s say, but we’re more likely to visit somewhere in Europe, so FOM is all positive for us. Brexit continues to be shit.

PickledMuffin · 09/08/2023 20:16

Also pissed off. I'm from a family where my mother is from a country in Europe, I'd love to move there in later life to retire, as I'd love that for my children. To add salt to the wound, my DP's father lives in Italy, but still voted to Brexit (no idea how or why)..... speechless to say the least!

perpetuallybusy · 09/08/2023 20:17

Furious. But my son has dual nationality so has EU citizenship. It is the damage done as a consequence of Brexit. Likewise the damage so many years of Tory rule have done.

daytriptovulcan · 09/08/2023 20:19

It's unforgivable, 🤬

Serendipitoushedgehog · 09/08/2023 20:19

My kid has dual nationality with a non-EU country anyway, but I voted remain and I am disappointing at the many ways in which Brexit has impacted upon my child’s future.

grass321 · 09/08/2023 20:22

Personally indifferent. My kids are far more likely to work in the US, Canada, Asia or Australia than a European country.

SwordToFlamethrower · 09/08/2023 20:22

My 19 year old son can't go live with his German girlfriend and vice versa, so they have decided to get married.

They would do it anyway mid twenties, but both furious and don't have another way if being together.

Our household voted remain and we've been livid about the result.

MintJulia · 09/08/2023 20:22

Not particularly concerned, about that part at least.

With population structure changing, the way it is, anyone young with skills that are in demand will be able to move wherever they wish.

My ds is a science/maths boy. With the right degree, he'll still be able to live wherever he wishes.

lentiluco · 09/08/2023 20:23

It's not something I think about much. Unlikely to make much difference to me or my family.

Yumyumcakes · 09/08/2023 20:24

AuntieJune · 09/08/2023 19:21

It's just one extra turd on a mountain of nationalistic Brexit shit

I wish mumsnet had a like button. I’d have liked this comment

gingercat02 · 09/08/2023 20:25

TooBigForMyBoots · 09/08/2023 19:13

...the Brexit vote, given how it has disadvantaged those children without dual nationality?

I'm from NI, so very fortunate that mine still have FOM. I'd be raging if anyone took that away from them.

One of the joys of a NI parent. My ds can have an Irish passport anytime he needs one. We all currently have British ones as we live in England, and DH is Scottish (ds is English), so it's easier but always an option.

SwordToFlamethrower · 09/08/2023 20:25

My English born husband has to pay £375 to get a sticker in his Dutch passport to prove he is British and entitled to live here. He has dual nationality being half dutch but gets stopped by customs trying to get into England after holidays!
Passports are very expensive now. All because of breckshit

Hoppinggreen · 09/08/2023 20:26

I’m not half as bothered as I would be if my DC didn’t have dual British/EU nationality.

calmcoco · 09/08/2023 20:26

It makes me really sad that my kids have fewer opportunities than I did. I'm pretty angry with those who voted to take this away from my kids.

IsisoftheWalbrook · 09/08/2023 20:28

Livid.

FannythePinkFlamingo · 09/08/2023 20:30

Still angry. The most short sighted decision this country has ever made.

GotMooMilk · 09/08/2023 20:34

I feel sad about it but on a personal level DH and I work in jobs which are highly sought after abroad and I’d encourage my DC to do the same. I am also hopeful that we will have formed better relations that allow more FOM by the time my kids are older (they’re only 6 and 4 currently).
If we moved abroad we’d be more likely to go to Canada/Australia so selfishly right now it doesn’t matter so much but I feel so sad for those who are affected. The binning of Erasmus is also terrible.

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TooBigForMyBoots · 09/08/2023 20:34

Comedycook · 09/08/2023 20:06

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But remember our kids aren't necessarily stuck here...people emigrate all the time to different countries without freedom of movement. Yes it's harder and more hoops to jump through but it's not impossible.

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It will be harder, more difficult and more expensive for your DC than mine. But maybe you have the means.Smile Other WC young people aren't so fortunate.

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Comedycook · 09/08/2023 20:37

TooBigForMyBoots · 09/08/2023 20:34

It will be harder, more difficult and more expensive for your DC than mine. But maybe you have the means.Smile Other WC young people aren't so fortunate.

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No I'm not especially privileged or well off. Most wc kids aren't heading off to study/work in Europe, freedom of movement or not.

OnlyFoolsnMothers · 09/08/2023 20:41

Thousands of children homeless in the U.K., people struggling to feed their children, childcare costs through the roof…but yes I worry about Edwin not being able to study in the Dordogne!

LadyWithLapdog · 09/08/2023 20:43

Well, no, most WC kids won’t go to Europe. Neither will most MC kids or posho kids. But that’s not the issue, is it? It’s still a massive pile of shit for no advantage to anyone, WC, MC or any other class you want.

As for PP who’s son is all right Kack cos he’s a little genius. Bully for you, but how about ordinary kids, don’t they deserve the option too?