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Children Who Ignore Adults?

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JoJoBoZoe · 21/06/2023 16:44

When did this become a thing and since when do parents allow this rude behaviour?

Whenever I'm on the school run or at parties and I meet with parents, I aways greet them and say hello and also hello to their child.

The amount of children that don't reply and ignore me and the parents say nothing is ridiculous! They just say " she's in a mood or she's tired "

I was raised, when an adult was speaking to me, that I answer them. If I'd have tried to ignore someone my Mother would have made me reply and would have embarrassed me.

Have all basic manners gone out of the window?

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changeyerheadworzel · 21/06/2023 17:45

Flowers94 · 21/06/2023 17:35

Thankyou for your opinion but none of my children struggle socially and will happily chat someone’s ear off if they’re in the mood too.
I just force them to have conversations they choose not to.

So if they are in the mood they will say hello but if not they will ignore?

IMustDoMoreExercise · 21/06/2023 17:48

But why do you continue to greet them when they don't respond?

I was a shy child and I hated speaking to adults and was always relieved when teh adult just spoke to my mum and not me.

changeyerheadworzel · 21/06/2023 17:49

JPSully · 21/06/2023 17:45

My daughter was very shy at that age. I taught her she only had to say 4 ‘words’ and I didn’t expect anything else. Those words were hello, bye, please and thank you. I think that’s reasonable. Ignoring someone is rude. Not saying please and thank you is rude. Expecting a lengthy conversation from a shy six year old is unhelpful.

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Thatbloomindog · 21/06/2023 16:54

This is a bug bear of mine as well. I’m talking key stage 2 children. Especially ones walking to school on their own or with mates. They know who I am, have had days out and play dates and parties etc with me and our children over the years. Friends with my children, been to our home a hundred times. Yet completely blank me if they see me on the school run. It’s not just one child either. It’s a number of them. Although some I must say are very polite. I’m afraid I now take the ‘embarrassing mum’ route of saying ‘hello and their name loudly and waving until I get a response. It’s strange as they are nice children with fab parents. I’m assuming it’s early teen angst and I’m just terribly embarrassing to know. which I’m happy to live up to.

I’ve drilled into my children to say hello if someone greets them. And apparently they do.

But why do you go out of your way to say hello to them when they don't want to speak to you?

I would just leave them and wouldn't waste my time.

JoJoBoZoe · 21/06/2023 17:56

JPSully · 21/06/2023 17:45

My daughter was very shy at that age. I taught her she only had to say 4 ‘words’ and I didn’t expect anything else. Those words were hello, bye, please and thank you. I think that’s reasonable. Ignoring someone is rude. Not saying please and thank you is rude. Expecting a lengthy conversation from a shy six year old is unhelpful.

And those 4 words are enough! 👏🏼

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LeeMiller · 21/06/2023 17:57

My preschool child has an anxiety disorder called selective mutism. It’s not just shyness, he physically can’t (not won’t) to adults in many situations, however much he wants to. Socially expected words like hello, thank you, bye are the hardest for people with SM and anxiety (which are on the rise since Covid).
People that need to know, know but we don’t broadcast it and most people, including friends’ parents, probably assume he’s just shy around adults (he’s ok with kids). Of course not every kid has SM but the point is that don’t know what’s really going on with every child so dismissing them as rude or shaming/embarrassing them is unhelpful. the best thing you can do is model polite behaviour and most kids will get there eventually.

Kilorrery · 21/06/2023 17:57

Malarandras · 21/06/2023 17:37

At 6 they may be very shy? Or who knows, you’re a common denominator here maybe it’s you they don’t like?!

Possibly. Some people have no idea how to talk to children, just as they have no idea how to talk to adults without being rude/self-absorbed/boastful or bloody boring.

I admit I find it amusing that there are people arguing vociferously for the importance of civility, manners etc on Mn, where there is also a disproportionately big cohort who struggle socially in the mildest social situation and feel it’s always other people’s fault.

gettingoldisshit · 21/06/2023 17:58

I think its definitely a thing now days that lots of kids don't have manners! I am and always have been hot on my dc having good manners, but so many kids i see now don't even have the basics such as please and thank you! If asked the parents usually make excuses for them.

gettingoldisshit · 21/06/2023 17:58

Flowers94 · 21/06/2023 16:48

I think this is a generational thing, my mum never forced us to speak to people but I know a lot of other parents that did.
I personally wouldn’t force my child to say hello or greet someone, kids need to know their own boundaries in my opinion and if they don’t want to speak they don’t have to. Just as I wouldn’t if I didn’t want to

To respond politely to someone who has acknowledged you is just basic manners!

Whataretheodds · 21/06/2023 18:00

Flowers94 · 21/06/2023 16:48

I think this is a generational thing, my mum never forced us to speak to people but I know a lot of other parents that did.
I personally wouldn’t force my child to say hello or greet someone, kids need to know their own boundaries in my opinion and if they don’t want to speak they don’t have to. Just as I wouldn’t if I didn’t want to

I'd find this behaviour incredible rude as an adult!

gettingoldisshit · 21/06/2023 18:01

megletthesecond · 21/06/2023 17:11

The kids aren't the rude person here.......

Yes they are, so are their parents for not teaching them basic social skills/manners!

Noicant · 21/06/2023 18:05

My 3 year old is expected to say hello, bye, please thank you etc as well. She’s not expected to get into a conversation with anyone. I expect basic politeness, nothing more. Practice at being polite is a good thing, because we encouraged her to say hello etc she’s now comfortable putting her own order in at restaurants (can I have some chips please). I think it’s confidence building.

JoJoBoZoe · 21/06/2023 18:06

Noicant · 21/06/2023 18:05

My 3 year old is expected to say hello, bye, please thank you etc as well. She’s not expected to get into a conversation with anyone. I expect basic politeness, nothing more. Practice at being polite is a good thing, because we encouraged her to say hello etc she’s now comfortable putting her own order in at restaurants (can I have some chips please). I think it’s confidence building.

Sounds like you are doing a great job! 👏🏼

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GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 21/06/2023 18:06

@MogsImagination , my Gdcs go to a state primary, and that’s not my experience at all. The children are expected to have good manners.

Moofart · 21/06/2023 18:07

My child has just had a course of play therapy due to being unable to socially interact with others, in particular adults. He would clam up and it would almost seem painful for him to speak or look at the person. As a result he presented as mute around adults. This thread has made me really sad to be honest that adults are so quick to judge. It's been a long, hard few years (I'm sure lockdown is to blame but that's another matter) but I was under the false impression that perhaps adults would be understanding if he failed to communicate with them.

massiveclamps · 21/06/2023 18:10

Have all basic manners gone out of the window?

On the whole, yes. And no doubt the thread will filll up with posters telling you that children don't have to do what they don't want to do, and how dare you speak to someone else's child and expect an answer, and in any case, you hadn't earned their respect first.
Confused

Brigitteshittette · 21/06/2023 18:11

i also find this so strange, seems a recent thing.

SerenityNowInsanityLater · 21/06/2023 18:12

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CharChar91 · 21/06/2023 18:13

At that age I wouldn't have spoken either. I was painfully shy and would have dreaded someone saying hello to me! But some of my friends wouldn't have had an issue with speaking to an adult.
Same with my children, my son is wary but getting more confident with gentle encouragement, my younger daughter wouldn't think twice and speaks to everyone about anything.
Perhaps the pandemic didn't help? At 6ish they were at home a lot when they might have ordinarily been put and about more and interacting with people/adults.

goodkidsmaadhouse · 21/06/2023 18:14

This isn’t my experience at all, I work in schools and the kids are all very friendly, ditto the kids on the school run. They might not want to chat but they’ll always say hello at least.

3AndStopping · 21/06/2023 18:16

YABU. It’s not rude, they’re kids. They get shy/embarrassed easily and are still learning society’s norms. The worse thing you can do is make it a big deal and punish them.

Say hi to child and be ignored 2,3 times… take it gracefully. I bet by the 4th they’ve found their own voice and will say hi back. They get comfortable with you. Don’t force that. There’s a lot to be said for being patient with children and earning their trust rather than just expecting it because you’re an adult.

If my child didn’t say hi back I’d just smile and say ‘they’re feeling shy.’ Telling them ‘say hello now! Don’t be rude!’ Just feels…. Outdated.

Srin · 21/06/2023 18:19

I teach children this age and it has nothing to do with parenting or manners. Some are shy, some are a bit overwhelmed by adults and prefer to stand back and wait before communicating. A lot of children are more sensitive than adults and are concentrating on the tone/loudness of the voice or the smell of perfume/BO/smoke/coffee breath. Some have been criticised a lot, so play it safe and stay silent.

In my experience, a friendly smile is the politest greeting to give a quiet 6yr old.

3AndStopping · 21/06/2023 18:20

My 4 year old will look obviously uncomfortable when an adult stranger says hello to her! She will bite her lip, look at the floor, fidget a bit…. You really think the right way to deal with that is INSIST she say hello? Why? I’m not going to make my already nervous child feel more uncomfortable because you think it’s rude. Sorry.

SirenSays · 21/06/2023 18:20

I was raised, when an adult was speaking to me, that I answer them. If I'd have tried to ignore someone my Mother would have made me reply and would have embarrassed me.

This stood out to me. Personally I don't want children to suffer embarrassment and would rather go without a hello.

JoJoBoZoe · 21/06/2023 18:20

massiveclamps · 21/06/2023 18:10

Have all basic manners gone out of the window?

On the whole, yes. And no doubt the thread will filll up with posters telling you that children don't have to do what they don't want to do, and how dare you speak to someone else's child and expect an answer, and in any case, you hadn't earned their respect first.
Confused

And this is what's wrong with society. Parents shitty attitudes when raising their kids, you only have to see some replies in this thread alone. Apples don't fall far from their trees.

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