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Would I be a horrid person not to donate?

212 replies

TwittleTwafdle · 30/05/2023 14:11

I used to be good friends with a work colleague. Then something happened (she cocked up, tried to remedy it and failed) and she threw me and a few others under the bus. I've never forgiven her. I moved job because of her. Never spoken since. It worked out ok for me but could have very seriously damaged my career.

Three years on, she has sent a personalised plea asking for money through one of the giving websites. Her eldest DD is horribly unwell and they are seeking treatment abroad.

Would you donate? DH says I'd be mad to do so. Given the circs (he saw the awful stress caused) and I should make a general donation to a relevant charity if I feel I should do something.

OP posts:
JustDanceAddict · 30/05/2023 15:57

I’ve only ever donated to a good friend for this sort of fundraising as I knew it was totally legit. However, I’d prob donate a tenner in this case as it is for a child and I can afford it.

Vivi0120 · 30/05/2023 15:58

Donate. It's for a child. You will feel better if you did.

I had a similar situation where an old classmate pretended to not recognise me on the street and then she was fundraising for her kid. I didn't even hesitate. I don't care what her personality is. It's for an innocent child.

CrackedSkull · 30/05/2023 15:59

vitahelp · 30/05/2023 15:44

If I was certain it was real and not some scam/someone hacked her emails, then I would donate.

I was thinking this too .

BeeHappy12 · 30/05/2023 16:02

To all those questioning what the nhs can't do for free, sorry to say but a lot. The nhs has moved out of the top 10 healthcare systems in the world. Many other countries who also provide completely free healthcare such as Aus, NZ, Netherlands offer much better treatment options and some of the options available privately in countries such as Germany, USA, Switzerland wouldn't be offered by the nhs. The nhs is good if you're in a motor vehicle accident or break your arm but not for complicated or proven cutting edge medical treatments, it literally has no funding.

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe · 30/05/2023 16:04

TeaParty4Me · 30/05/2023 15:49

It’s pretty easier to tell what sort a person certain posters are when they say things like no I wouldn’t donate as because she hadn’t even apologised etc.

I just hope their children never get so sick that the NHS can’t treat them for free.

Well, why don't you donate to this child then since it's such a no-brainer for you?

You have no idea what posters are like, any more than I would be correct in thinking that you're one of those who doesn't understand nuance, is happy to spend other people's money for them and doesn't put their hand in their own pocket.

You first. Start there before pontificating about other people's motives. You're not the only one so don't think I'm singling you out, but the virtue signalling on this thread is tiresome.

FedUpWithTheNHS · 30/05/2023 16:04

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 30/05/2023 15:43

Where's the 'of course'? for a start, OP doesn't even know if this treatment works. And that 'stressful work fallout' might have negatively affected OP's children if she was unemployed, I bet the colleague wouldn't have been chipping in to help with that.

And as for the sheer manipulativeness of 'how will you feel if you don't,' that's on a par with the ex-colleague's message about not getting in touch. as if they'd just happened to lose contact.

Lol at the idea that you ‘know’ a treatment works.

Thats not how medicine works.

Feraldogmum · 30/05/2023 16:04

This woman has invoked your children to get cash,this is repugnant emotional blackmail . Frankly I’d have donated to unicef alone not her,not to spite her child but because she’s less to you than a stranger and there are many sick children in the world. You are correct to block her though and leave the matter behind. I do hope this is the last you hear from her and not the start of some deranged campaign.

FedUpWithTheNHS · 30/05/2023 16:04

@TwittleTwafdle happy to see you found a way forward that works for YOU.

Iheartmysmart · 30/05/2023 16:05

This probably sounds heartless but I personally wouldn’t donate.

I had a friend at work several years ago and she was always asking colleagues for donations/sponsorship for a family member’s medical treatment. We happily contributed, raised money through cake sales, attended fund raising dinners at not inconsiderable expense only to find the family concerned had a huge house, holiday home, several brand new cars etc and could easily have paid for the treatment themselves.

We no longer work together and haven’t seen each other for years but I still get the odd email asking if I want to pay £250 plus for a fundraising dinner!

Shininghope · 30/05/2023 16:05

Blistory · 30/05/2023 14:34

For the sake of old times when you were friends, I would. She did you wrong but she's suffering now. More importantly her child is suffering.

I'd make a small donation, wish her and her child the best of luck and then move on.

This

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe · 30/05/2023 16:06

Well, this thread has made it very clear for me - zero donations to GoFundMe from now on, regardless of cause. Médecins Sans Frontières all the way now.

Mysleepisbroken · 30/05/2023 16:07

BeeHappy12 · 30/05/2023 16:02

To all those questioning what the nhs can't do for free, sorry to say but a lot. The nhs has moved out of the top 10 healthcare systems in the world. Many other countries who also provide completely free healthcare such as Aus, NZ, Netherlands offer much better treatment options and some of the options available privately in countries such as Germany, USA, Switzerland wouldn't be offered by the nhs. The nhs is good if you're in a motor vehicle accident or break your arm but not for complicated or proven cutting edge medical treatments, it literally has no funding.

Is this view from personal experience of kids cancer care or are you just presuming barred in the overall system of the NHS?

Mine is the former. Sadly.

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe · 30/05/2023 16:07

Good for you, OP. As PP says, doing what makes your soul peaceful.

SouthLondonMum22 · 30/05/2023 16:08

I'd be the bigger person and donate what you can afford. This isn't about your ex friend, it's about her daughter and I'd separate the two.

Hugasauras · 30/05/2023 16:08

I'd stick in a fiver or something if I could afford it and let that be an end to it, and thank my lucky stars that it wasn't either of my DDs in that situation.

MCOut · 30/05/2023 16:09

TwittleTwafdle · 30/05/2023 15:56

Right. Donation made. Donation made too to UNICEF. Email deleted and blocked. Belt and braces - I won't dwell on it and I'll move on. All done.

For avoidance of doubt, I don't think I've necessarily done the "right" thing. Just "a" thing which means no more stress for me.

Possibly ultimately a selfish thing.

DH thinks I'm batshit.

I think you did the right thing, OP. You’ve donated to her child, but you haven’t opened a line of communication. I’m glad you don’t have to think about it anymore.

Simonlebonbon · 30/05/2023 16:11

I had a similar drama with my DH being unimpressed with me donating.

A kid in school was an absolute cunt to me, he went out into the big wide world and was an absolute cunt to the wrong people, got in over his head and committed suicide leaving 5 kids without a father weeks before Christmas.
There was a go fund me shared on FB and I gave £100, which is a massive amount for us (low earners)
But those kids didn't deserve the hand played to them, whilst it was huge to us to give away we also didn't go without anything and I've certainly never regretted it.
DH understood that even though their father was a horrid arsehole of a man and (I'm quite happy to speak ill of the dead before anyone comes @ me) he obviously had huge demons and nobody's kids deserve to grieve and have a shitty Christmas, kids don't choose their parents (please woowoo brigade, don't you @ me either!) So yeah, I've always felt happy I donated.

I have had stick on here before for one of my life mantras, which is fine but its, "you'll never regret being kind", and you won't, you may regret not showing kindness though.

NoBiscuitsLeftInMyTin · 30/05/2023 16:11

TwittleTwafdle · 30/05/2023 15:56

Right. Donation made. Donation made too to UNICEF. Email deleted and blocked. Belt and braces - I won't dwell on it and I'll move on. All done.

For avoidance of doubt, I don't think I've necessarily done the "right" thing. Just "a" thing which means no more stress for me.

Possibly ultimately a selfish thing.

DH thinks I'm batshit.

You’ve done the right thing. Move on, you cannot be criticised for anything and you know you’ve done what you can.

NotMyMill · 30/05/2023 16:11

TwittleTwafdle · 30/05/2023 15:56

Right. Donation made. Donation made too to UNICEF. Email deleted and blocked. Belt and braces - I won't dwell on it and I'll move on. All done.

For avoidance of doubt, I don't think I've necessarily done the "right" thing. Just "a" thing which means no more stress for me.

Possibly ultimately a selfish thing.

DH thinks I'm batshit.

OP just curious did you donate to the former colleague anonymously or does your name appear? FWIW I might have done the same and at least you feel Ok with your choice, but equally not donating wouldn’t have made you a bad person.

btw for all those saying she is clearly that desperate it’s even more shocking she still hasn’t apologised then . You’d think a quick apology at least before asking for money if you were really desperate to get the person to donate would benefit both you and the person asking .

Work stress isn’t the same as a sick child true, but it is still very serious and can often lead to poor health and even suicide so let’s not underplay that either.

Peach27 · 30/05/2023 16:16

I wouldn’t tbh. The NHS has sent people abroad if it’s deemed medically necessary but there’s too many families who are defrauded and promised the world. My sister is a paediatrician and seen far too many desperate families do fundraisers, get heavily in debt to go to Mexico/USA etc all to access some treatment that doesn’t do anything but exhaust everyone and steal precious limited days away from them

LuckyPeonies · 30/05/2023 16:18

OP, I agree with your husband and all the pp’s who said ‘hell no’. She did not care about you and your family’s personal stress and financial situation when she threw you under the bus. I would have blocked and deleted.

RudsyFarmer · 30/05/2023 16:19

I’d want to make sure it was true and they’d I’d probably my donate an amount that seemed fitting.

FuckTheLemonsandBail · 30/05/2023 16:22

I wouldn't donate, no.

Usually these gofundmes for treatment abroad are built on snake oil, if the treatment was clinically indicated then it'd be offered here. Unethical organisations in other countries often offer 'treatment' that has no evidence base, costing vast sums of money, and parents will understandably move heaven and earth to pay every single penny asked of them because they feel it's their last ditch hope for their child. It's an awful industry.

I wouldn't donate anyway tbh for someone who had thrown me under the bus but especially not to this. If it was a donation for idk, a nice weekend away somewhere for a very poorly child I would consider it as a good deed.

FuckTheLemonsandBail · 30/05/2023 16:22

Peach27 · 30/05/2023 16:16

I wouldn’t tbh. The NHS has sent people abroad if it’s deemed medically necessary but there’s too many families who are defrauded and promised the world. My sister is a paediatrician and seen far too many desperate families do fundraisers, get heavily in debt to go to Mexico/USA etc all to access some treatment that doesn’t do anything but exhaust everyone and steal precious limited days away from them

Exactly. You said it better than I did.

pussycatinfluffyslippers · 30/05/2023 16:24

I agree with your DH, but I'm sure UNICEF will appreciate your donation.