Thread 24, Sunak and the local elections aftermath

[DuncinToffee]

Previous thread

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/_chat/4793978-thread-23-sunak-unicorn-kingdom?page=1

Thx Dunc for new thread.

Like the title.

Good old Rishi is stick with the five pledges even after a trouncing at the ballot box

Thanks @DuncinToffee.

Yes the people gave their verdict on whether his priorities were theirs as well and showed how much they were completely in support by voting for someone else.

thanks Duncin.

Thank you for the new thread @DuncinToffee.

While the tories are imploding and the country is falling apart, it is ridiculous that they are allowed to still be the governing party.

It's so depressing that we may still have another year and a half of non governance on top of the last year and a half.

My feelings exactly. Whilst they are busy taking chunks out of each other they are getting in our way.

Is BJ at this conference with Suella, do we know?

Are they paying him a 6/7 figure sum. If not then I doubt it.

Thanks for the thread @DuncinToffee , following closely.

Wrong conference, the BBB gang are the democratic cons with Priti Patel

Oh it's hard to keep up.

Rees Mogg who was a senior member of the Government that first came up with Voter ID:

Interestingly, Rees Mogg calls the imposition of mandatory voter ID a gerrymandering scheme that backfired for the Conservatives as it largely affected older people, who are more likely to vote Tory.

https://twitter.com/peterwalker99/status/1658044113621491715?s=20

He said the quiet part out loud, didn’t he?

It doesn’t get better in context. He just straight up said it.

One of the most notable lessons from both today's NatCon gathering and Saturday's Conservative Democratic Organisation conference is we seem to be - yet again - back in an era where internal discipline for Tory MPs, and even for ministers, is starting to completely break down.

This is interesting from the same thread. More if this please because the more it happens the quicker the death of the Tory party will hopefully be. They are ungovernable and there isn’t anyone who can lead them. Brexiting has killed them. They don’t have a unified cause to froth about to the ukip voters so there’s no cover for the ones that are unhinged raving loons.

That thread is illuminating.

Miriam Cates, more babies but domestic not from immigration.

Thanks for the new thread, @DuncinToffee . I am going to take the ongoing Tory infighting as a fat positive.

Rees Mogg said that?!

Trying to think if there’s a current Tory MP I don’t hate. Is there a non-offensive one that isn’t a dimwit?
Caroline Noakes seems ok at times. Don’t necessarily agree with her on everything but she absolutely skewered Johnson in a select committee and I’ve seen her do it to another few people who deserved it.

JRM - we tried voter suppression & it didn't work.

Also JRM - we must give our support to Sunak otherwise we will look crazy.

Even the Borgias knew how to stay on message in public.

Thinking about it I misinterpreted his comments.

We tried voter supression and it did work but on the wrong people.

Right notes, wrong order.

It did backfire.

I genuinely think they thought it would be the Tory old boys who had the ID and the younger Labour voters who didn't.

So yes, I believe it was deliberately trying to influence the votes received. But it didn't come out in the wash the way they planned.

Philip Dunne (Ludlow) hasn't done anything massively wrong, and isn't completely bonkers, he is perhaps an old fashioned Tory and works reasonable hard in his constituency.

The other thing about the Conservatives crying over voter ID is that it didn't come for free!

I don't suppose we will ever get to the bottom of how much was racked up to facilitate the "gerrymandering" but a large number of local councils reported that the central funding didn't cover the whole cost.

And then the Tories have the cheek to complain about council taxes rising.

www.electoral-reform.org.uk/campaigns/voter-id/

it surely must be part of a plan so cunning we cant begin to guess, characters from the beano always have high level strategies dont they

Thank you for new thread. Just reading about JRM's twattery.

That conference is terrifying.

Imagine the uproar if Labour ministers turned up to a mildly socialist conference. Sir Keir didn't even want them on picket lines.

Selous in SW Bedfordshire is 'sympathetic to teachers' apparently. He isn't my MP so no idea if he is otherwise OK.

I, too, am generally OK with Nokes but she still votes in line with some God awful stuff.