To think there isn't an excuse for an adult to live filthy

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Let's put aside the vulnerable who for obvious reasons can't be included in this discussions. + not a shame post for people who do genuinely like to be in a clean environment but sometimes work and family gets in the way.

Why is it that grown adults who are more than capable of cleaning, just CHOOSE to be dirty and live In such environments that are clearly very unhygienic.

Even worse why does society treat some grown adults like they are little children who 'tried their best'. Your telling me a grown adult can't programme as an example, how to fix the bed in a decent manner that doesn't look like a 4 year old done up.

I am raging because I am in a position where I like to keep things decently clean and liveable whereas the other person has 0 care and then gets left on me because I know they simply don't care enough.

It should be a very bare minimum!!

Throw your thoughts ....

There's quite a cavernous gap between living 'filthy' and not making the bed imo.

If this is a person you're living with then you need to come to an arrangement over chores and who does what.

Making the bed was just a very light example of people making excuses for grown adults not being able to fix the bed the way a grown up should. Doesn't have to be fancy but in a condition that doesn't look like a child done it and then get praise for it. I actually read this somewhere else, and I couldn't agree more.

I was with you until your example of “living filthy” was not making the bed adequately 🤣

I have but it's no luck! Just genuinely angers me to think why a grown capable adult just can't flipping clean up.

Sorry your partner or flatmate is a mess, OP. Only solution is to stop living with them.

I probably just ordered the wording wrong but as I said to PP that was just a mere light example that I actually saw somewhere else. It's not about oh you didn't do your bed so your filthy I think your missing the point. It's around other adults making excuses for other capable adults why they can't perform a very simple job and then getting praised for it. Hope that clears it up a bit.

I agree but unfortunately can't for now so have to rage on here haha

You have a certain standard around tidiness / cleanliness, other people have different standards. My husband and I don't make our bed at all, just pull back the covers in the day so it's aired - it's not important to me. It doesn't make me like a 4 year old, it makes me an adult who can choose what my priorities are.

Thing is, you're not supposed to 'make the bed' when you get up. The average person gets rid of half a pint of sweat a night. Or if you're in the menopause it feels like more. You're supposed turn the bed down so it can air and dry. Trapping in all that moisture isn't a good thing.

I didn't say bed has to be perfect but it should at-least look like an adult fixed it. + living in a hygienic environment should be a priority for all regardless, especially if you have kids or others you take care of. I am a parent with small children and I work full time. My house might be 10/10 every minute but the second I get a moment, I make sure that is a priority. However, there are adults that will get that opportunity but still choose to live in conditions that are filthy.

Does the fact that he won't fix the bed mean that it's broken? In that case that is annoying. But it isn't dirty or unhygienic.

There are many different levels of cleanliness....

Not making the bed isn't filthy.

We rarely do

The most i do is find the quilt back so the bed can air

That is true but yet again everyone seems so focused on the bed but missing my point again. If you have to turn your beds upside down, good but my point is around capable adults who CHOOSE not to want to even do half a decent cleaning + being praised for a clearly shit job on something that as an adult you should be able to manage & that can be anything other than the bed. The bed was just a very small example.

So what are the examples of filth then OP - the big non bed examples?

You don't really say why the other adult in your house is unhygienic? ..

Is your bed broken?

Some people like the 'lived in' feel of a home rather than the clinical approach, I love going to somebodies house and seeing interesting stuff stacked around

Not making a bed isn't exactly filthy,

As far as I'm aware, beds are made in factories, I doubt if many have the tools to construct one at home, and question why one should be built each day - what on earth has happened to the one some one slept in?

My ex is 43 and has his mum come round and do his cleaning once a week. He lives alone, bar when our child sleeps over, new build house, so minimal maintenance. Its deeply unattractive.

It was your example. To me living filthily is chucking a full ashtray into a fireplace that doesnt get used. Piles of dirty dishes everywhere and not a clean bench in sight. Bathrooms that haven't been cleaned in a long time.

Making the bed isn't living in filth. But it can irritate someone who doesn't need to live with that person anymore.

Some simple example in my opinion. Eating and leaving dirty dishes to stack up for God knows how long, going toilet & not bothering to clean it up after it's clearly dirty, leaving drops of food on the floor and walking past it, snacking on the sofa and leaving food pieces to stack up for the next person to feel when they sit down, leaving dirty clothes all over the place and not bothering to at least move its position, not changing your bed sheets often (at-least once every two weeks). The list can be endless.

However, that's not to say your average joe maybe hasn't lived like this but my point is around people who are in that kind of environment but literally choose to ignore and continue. In my opinion that's nasty. If you get a moment, just clean up. There's no real philosophy around it.

Missing the point. If you read up I've clarified it in a few posts now :)

I think she's talking about making the bed as in tidying it. Not literally fixing it because it broken.