To think there isn't an excuse for an adult to live filthy

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Let's put aside the vulnerable who for obvious reasons can't be included in this discussions. + not a shame post for people who do genuinely like to be in a clean environment but sometimes work and family gets in the way.

Why is it that grown adults who are more than capable of cleaning, just CHOOSE to be dirty and live In such environments that are clearly very unhygienic.

Even worse why does society treat some grown adults like they are little children who 'tried their best'. Your telling me a grown adult can't programme as an example, how to fix the bed in a decent manner that doesn't look like a 4 year old done up.

I am raging because I am in a position where I like to keep things decently clean and liveable whereas the other person has 0 care and then gets left on me because I know they simply don't care enough.

It should be a very bare minimum!!

Throw your thoughts ....

Lazy for sure

Because it really doesn't matter. There is more to life than cleaning and tidying and poisoning onself and family with chemicals in cleaning products. Cleaning products and sterile environments are actually harmful to people in the long term. You can't have a healthy, resistant immune system without germs. Some people will think you must have a very boring life to care about cleaning so much (at all). Just why, why would anyone spend so much time slaving away at something so pointless.

Definitely feel you on that one.

People are missing the point because you haven't made a clear point.
Who is this person who is dirty?
If they live with you have you pulled them up on it?
If you have done so and they don't improve, why are you still living with them?
Who is praising this person, despite them being dirty?
If you don't live with them, why do you care?

At no point did I say slave away cleaning. An hour a day would go a long way for many.

You have standards around cleanliness.

I have standards around correct spelling and grammar.

Who does it bother you?

An hour a day? Is that before or after I've been at work all day?

And I made a mistake 🤣

My point is very clear actually. If your a grown adult who is capable, please take even an hour a day when you can to clean up. A grown capable adult choosing to live in flighty conditions is not acceptable. That also goes to the person I'm living with but the focus shouldn't be on them it's grown adults not doing the bare minimum for their homes & people they live with (if they do)

Always the way 😂

Oh the fucking irony! 😂

Yeah there is a man around the corner from me pisses in buckets in his bedroom soils himself and doesn't change his clothing for days messes his car up by leaving fresh milkshake in it in the sunshine till it explodes had over 14 bins full of rubbish removed from his tiny flat when be was in hospital came out didn't change the stench is so bad you can smell it outside on the footpath

Yes he has help and support before anyone asks

However you want to play it. I work full time + raising kids while also doing all chores. Believe me I find a way. There's really no excuse.

There's probably more people living in filth, than people living in clean homes.

That's humans for you. All different some like living in squalor, others tidy, and some pristine homes.

As you should.

I had a mate like this once when I was younger and he literally just wasn't arsed.

I used to clean up as habit waiting for the kettle to boil. In the end I used to clean for him and he paid me. He hated it. He just couldn't get motivated.

I hope he has a cleaner now. We live miles away from each other now.

I remember one day I gave everywhere a deep clean and washed his bedding and the next morning he text me and said "I get why you get into your fresh bed with freshly shaved legs and fresh jamas it's like nothing else isn't it"

My house is generally always a mess until the cleaner shows up / we have guests round.

If you can please enlighten me as to how to find the time to keep it clean and tidy whilst we have two full time jobs, kids, a busy social life and studying to do, that would be great. I also like to have at least one hour of down time to just watch tv or browse the web in the evening.

For me, I can live with a few toast crumbs and unmade beds knowing that we’re all where we should be on time in the mornings, getting our homework / studying done and enjoying life!

Yes and I'm not saying there shouldn't be a second of someone having a dirty home. I have small kids, believe me I've seen mess but my point is if you get a moment, there shouldn't be a reason not to clean up. I don't understand what people have against living in a clean environment.

And Murphy's law strikes again 😂

Totally get that. Not everyone loves to clean and if you can afford it, then pay someone else. People who keep making excuses for being messy are also the same people who love a clean home if someone else done it for them. Our elderly neighbour bless her used to have a really really filthy home and she smokes tons so the smell would reach out of her house and I'd be able to smell it in mine so there's an example of why your dirty home can become someone else's business.

I can , I just don't want to and a lot of things don't bother me (pet pee anywhere definitely would though).I'll get to it eventually . I didn't today.

Hygienic environment is really, really unimportant. It is also harmful to our health.
What do your young kids do/did during your continous cleaning? Generally there is zero time to clean or tidy when you have young kids. Did they Watch TV or remain ignored,vforced and strapped in some ridiciculous device like a bouncer? Distracted with food and sweets? It's more important to some not to do that to their kids, rather than have a clean or tidy house. And they are correct.
I know you are asking about adults but the same logic applies, other things are more important to them. And rightly so. Most people are like you. They care about cleaning and don't question why. Like they don't question most things.
A shallow, simple view, zero intellectual curiosity.

I am also a very busy person just like you and also like my down time. If you can't spend 1 complete hour doing a quick clean, then you can always clean on the go after doing something. It's very simple actually. Mess gets created, because people let it stack up and then when it's a lot, they don't want to face it anymore. Simple solution, don't let it stack up. Do what you can every so often. I personally feel a lot better in myself that my kids can sit, play, eat and sleep in a decent space because as an adult I have found the time to do something small every when I can. I also feel extremely uncomfortable if people show up in my home and it's disgusting. No one said have your home sparkling and slave all day. There's always a way.

But what business is it of yours how other people choose to live?

Do you mean an hour minimum every day on top of childcare, cooking, shopping, laundry, dishwasher and working??