Epsom College Murder Suicide

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I'm shocked but not surprised. This world is depressing and scary for women.

Seriously?

Interview being given by a colleague just now who brings it home by saying 'you are only as safe as your make partner allows you to be'.
100% accurate and truly terrifying for women.

Male

Yes. I felt like I saw her surpressed rage as she spoke. Her neck flushed red.

It's not * a good time to be a woman.*

It never has been.

Male domestic violence upon women and children is a global disaster. Every further death is awful and I wish I could do something to stop it. I hate the bloody patriarchy.

I know but it is definitely getting worse.

I know that was such a weird thing to say, I wonder how long it took that poster to contact every woman they know for their inner thoughts.

You should see the Fathers4Justice page on Facebook.

The misogyny is absolutely horrific. I'm certain there are future killers on there.

I am absolutely so fucked off, disgusted and shit scared for my daughter's future.
Every week surprise surprise another fucking man conducts a disgusting act against a woman.

In many ways, now is the best time to be a woman. We have so many rights and opportunities that previous generations could only dream about.

And yet, the WWN and the news we watch has highlighted how disadvantaged and threatened women still are. Even if we are not victims of violence ourselves, we are aware of the threat, and we restrict our activities to protect ourselves.

This affects all of us. And then we read about something truly horrific and, amongst all the horrible emotions, we reassure ourselves that this could never happen to us.

I'm sure Emma never thought her husband, however awful he was, would be capable of murdering her and their child. And yet he did. So much male entitlement, anger, misogyny just below the surface.

I don't know what the solution is.

I’m sorry but I am honestly baffled at how you can get a gun licence? This shouldn’t be allowed. Why would somebody need a gun?

An absolutely disgusting case. RIP to Emma and Lettie. 💐🕯️

What the GDST lady said on the BBC “no matter no successful you are as a woman, you are only as safe as your male partner let’s you be”.

I have no words.

Which would be fine.

It's now been announced the husband did, what goes through their heads to do this?
Such a waste of the life of a mother and her little girl.
R.I.P 💐

I have to agree with you. There is a lot of hyperbole on MN - and neither I nor any of my female friends feel that way either.

It's a shocking thing to have happened, but doesn't mean all men are going to behave like that - and before anyone starts, where I live (not UK) it's not so long ago that a man came home from work to find his three little daughters dead, killed by their mother.

@Lentilweaver's response wasn't pathetic all, simply truthful.

Oh jog on..Political my arse. Hate leads to violence? What a trite, facile, Hallmark card way to dismiss the fact that 2 women are killed every week by men they know.

It's not shocking 2-3 women are murdered by men in the UK per WEEK.

2 women a week in the UK are killed by men they know. In fact I think it’s closer to 3 now.

If you don’t find that depressing and scary then I don’t know what to tell you.

The statistics the other way round aren’t anywhere near that.

You can’t possibly know what all of your friends think/ feel nor what all of their relationships are/ were like from the inside. Nor how they feel when they read news stories like this.

What an absolute twat you sound.

Every word of this.

Always fucking men. Commentary all over the media about the poor, sweet, innocent child's life, and understandably so.

Less sympathy for the also-innocent wife who has also lost her life to this monster. It's as though women are invisible, as though their lives don't matter in the least.

Makes your heart weep.

It’s only been on the news all day today!

I have not read the whole thread, so maybe someone has already mentioned this, but it’s very interesting that he reported her to the police in 2016. I can’t help but think they had a blazing row then and he reported her to “teach her a lesson”. He liked “fast cars” and had a gun. It’s painting a picture of the man.

How sad and predictable this thread is, man kills his wife and child, lots of people are sad and angry about it and in no time we have the usual 1) women kill their children too 2) his MH must have been bad 3) all the men in my life are lovely, you shouldn't hate them.
My DP is lovely, we have a very equal relationship, but that doesn't mean I'm not truly, truly angry for all the women who are abused and murdered by inadeguate men. Time and again I see reports of women who are stalked, abused, murdered by men who can't stand a women to say no to them, whose ego is so fragile that exposure of their frailities is worse then death.
I don't know the solution, I wish I did, but I know it's not women's fault. Tragic one off tragedy my arse