Thread 20 Sunak and the Winter of Discontent

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Acool, wtf, school! My autocorrect is shit.

Thanks for being a supportive corner of Mumsnet.

The NEU leader was just on BBC and cited Mumsnet! A survey said 67 % of us blame the government

67% is quite good for MN.

There is bound to be some on the day irritation/frustration about strikes in any sector. But largely I think people have got the message that public services are understaffed and under resourced - and we are losing more staff year on year so things can only get worse.

We know because we are using those services.

Unlike most Government ministers families.

Good thread 🧵 from Sam Freedman highlighting pay differences between English and OECD primary teachers - the graphs are excellent if dispiriting.

Real terms pay for primary teachers in England vs other OECD countries. This is why there's a strike today.

twitter.com/samfr/status/1620703847063879681?s=46&t=hKuenkGv8fjbtIf_pHNHWQ

Yes agree @Notonthestairs I can't say that it's not an absolute PITA that the DC's school is shut today, but I wholeheartedly blame this bloody government and not the teachers at all.

I'm 100% behind the strikers.

Education and beyond.
I've worked in education for many a decade in some form or another and have seen such changes.
It's unsustainable to keep putting pupils with severe SEND in MS schools without support names on echps because they can't employ staff due to low wages and continue to slash budgets for in school support for all pupils as well.

Increased demands and decreased budgets and staffing was always going to reach the point people walked.

I'm incredulous that their solution is to remove the right to strike rather than improve working conditions, funding and pay.

What was so depressing was the vote. 315 to 246.

Now, yet again, the scrutiny has to come from the HoL.

superb stuff from the education secretary:

Gillian Keegan: The schools budget is now the highest ever.

Nick Robinson: It was actually higher in 2010.

Gillian Keegan: Well, 2010 was the highest year ever!

twitter.com/henrymance/status/1620699678823321601?t=gsBpYrQ1Kv1-l1DFp2a7aQ&s=19

Yea I heard that.

Also "well not will be higher when we add the £2bn"

"Yes it will be"

"So it's not actually currently higher then"

"No but it will be higher than 2010"

So actually completely admitted without saying it that over the past 13 years they've cut funding year on year. Despite claims it's been increased.

I think you are misquoting her.

She said it was the highest ever, if you include money that has not been given to schools....

Anyway January has been a hugely successful month for the government. It has seen Electoral Calculus predictions for the next general election move from a 194 seat Labour majority to....

www.electoralcalculus.co.uk/prediction_main.html

@jgw1 I like those figures. I will hug them and kiss them and call them George.

Let’s hope those figures stuck until a GE can no longer be avoided. 🤞

If this government keeps going the way they are, and listening to pmqs they seem to be, those figures are going to get better for labour. Sunak is beyond a joke.

There is an interesting theory that Labour has a green reserve that could be worth up to 40 seats. Those of us who might vote Labour or Green, might vote Green given the current polling, but if things got closer would vote Labour to ensure the Tories were out.

www.electoralcalculus.co.uk/blogs/ec_rrose_20230201.html

Its nice to see at PMQs that PM uses the same lines as the Tory HQ bots on here.

But Jeremy Corbyn.

Clearly a winning argument, given at the next GE the winning party is likely to have the largest majority of any party since Winston Churchill's wartime coalition!

Its nice to see at PMQs that PM uses the same lines as the Tory HQ bots on here.

It's probably them advising him.

Sunak saying nobody told him is reminiscent of posters saying just don't read the news.

Oh dear, I didn't expect confirmation of my previous post

Asked if the Prime Minister actually reads the news, given his claimed ignorance of allegations against Nadhim Zahawi and Dominic Rabb before appointing them, his press secretary says it's "not something he does every morning".

And so it continues

NEW: Rishi Sunak’s press sec fails to deny that prime minister WAS aware of informal complaints about Dominic Raab bullying allegations when he made him deputy PM.

After repeated questions, she says: “He was not aware of formal complaints when he made the appointment”.

I presume Sunak appointed Raab precisely because he is a bully.
If Sunak was unaware of the informal allegations then he must have been one of few people in the country for whom that was true.

It's even more ridiculous when the current opposition challenges the current PM and the current PM replies with "but the potential PM who didn't get in and isn't in opposition would have ....".

It just further highlights he can't challenge the current leader of the opposition who is actually challenging him.

You make a good point.

What I don't understand is why the Prime Minister of the week doesn't just answer with a list of all the amazing actions that have been taken in the past 12 years to improve things in this country.

Raab endorsed Sunak's leadership campaign from the very beginning. There is no question that Sunak struck a very early deal with Raab for support in return for a position in Cabinet.

The complaints span the Ministry of Justice, Department for Exiting the EU and Foreign office and began when May was still PM.

No chance whatsoever that Sunak hadn't heard that there had been complaints about behaviour. He just didn't care.

Would this surprise anyone?

Dominic Raab’s accusers fear he will seek to cover up bullying claims by resigning before investigation has concluded

twitter.com/johnestevens/status/1620848360512159745?t=RVp9SH8ZXQv00_Dx6D1gNg&s=19

FFS, Sunak is only PM because he’s supposed to be less chaotic than Johnson was. I’m starting to struggle to see the difference between them.