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Thread 20 Sunak and the Winter of Discontent

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DuncinToffee · 16/12/2022 18:58

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MissyB1 · 10/01/2023 15:45

L1ttledrummergirl · 10/01/2023 15:42

Are they real beds or virtual ones?

probably imaginary ones!

CriticalAlert · 10/01/2023 16:28

Sunak is a disaster and is clueless. The Tories are going to make it much much worse. It's a frightening spectacle. Not content with dragging the country to its knees, they gave us Truss and Kwarteng. I can't believe who votes for this shower of utter bastards.

Blossomtoes · 10/01/2023 16:32

I can't believe who votes for this shower of utter bastards.

It’s not like me to be charitable to the Tories but nobody who voted for them in 2019 could possibly have foreseen just how much of a shitshow they’d get.

DuncinToffee · 10/01/2023 17:04

They could have foreseen some kind of shitshow when they voted for Johnson. His track record was there for all to see.

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Fladdermus · 10/01/2023 17:07

Big Dog was too lazy to do anything to cause this much damage.

DuncinToffee · 10/01/2023 17:14

He appointed the current shit show holders.

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Blossomtoes · 10/01/2023 17:17

Fladdermus · 10/01/2023 17:07

Big Dog was too lazy to do anything to cause this much damage.

So true.

Soothsayer1 · 10/01/2023 17:46

Fladdermus · 10/01/2023 17:07

Big Dog was too lazy to do anything to cause this much damage.

but doesn't that mean he ends up as someone elses useful idiot?

Notonthestairs · 10/01/2023 17:52

Good thread on new strike legislation from Peston. As per someone's earlier post (sorry too lazy to check who) Minister's are deliberately conflating safe & service levels.

twitter.com/peston/status/1612866529640550411?s=46&t=UXmBLtw5xE9PZbFCaMVxtw

Confused and muddled legislation that originated with..,Truss!

The earliest it will come in to use will be this summer so what does it solve? It's been resurrected by Sunak to grab some headlines and make a show of doing something.

Notonthestairs · 10/01/2023 17:53

Fladdermus · 10/01/2023 17:07

Big Dog was too lazy to do anything to cause this much damage.

That was the problem wasn't it? Delegating to Rees Mogg, Patel, Raab and Cummings etc.

But at least he got those 40 new hospitals sorted.

DuncinToffee · 10/01/2023 17:54

Soothsayer1 · 10/01/2023 17:46

but doesn't that mean he ends up as someone elses useful idiot?

Useful to photoshop out of a picture...

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itsgettingweird · 10/01/2023 19:59

Mr Shapps said the plans are in line with laws in other European countries and would “protect the lives and the livelihoods of the British people”. It is expected to take six months to get through Parliament.

From ITV news.

So....... the past decade has been about getting out of the EU to make our own rules and embrace sovereignty. Stop following the ECHR.

Yet their defence of the anti strike bill is ..... "it brings us in line with other European countries"

You couldn't make this shit up!

Notonthestairs · 10/01/2023 20:36

It seems like the UK legislation is a bit wider and more punitive than comparable French & Spanish law and relies on some local cooperation -

The government has stressed similar legislation already exists in Western Europe, including France and Spain.
Spanish regulations have, for example, required airlines and staff to maintain a minimum service.
Last August, minimum service levels were brought in by the Ministry of Transport in Spain to combat a scheduled Ryanair cabin crew strike.
A statement from the ministry at the time said the minimum services had been established with the goal of “comparing the general interest of citizens, and in particular their mobility needs, with the right to strike of this group of workers”.
According to the local authorities law in France, a region's local representative (prefect) can "requisition any property or service, require any person necessary" to maintain public order, hygiene, tranquillity and safety.

countrygirl99 · 10/01/2023 20:40

itsgettingweird · 10/01/2023 19:59

Mr Shapps said the plans are in line with laws in other European countries and would “protect the lives and the livelihoods of the British people”. It is expected to take six months to get through Parliament.

From ITV news.

So....... the past decade has been about getting out of the EU to make our own rules and embrace sovereignty. Stop following the ECHR.

Yet their defence of the anti strike bill is ..... "it brings us in line with other European countries"

You couldn't make this shit up!

So, when we were in the EU we weren't in line with other EU countries but now we aren't we need to be. Right. Give me a few weeks and some hallucinogenic drugs and I might be able to work out the logic.

Notonthestairs · 10/01/2023 20:53

The number of patients waiting more than 12 hours in A&E for treatment has exceeded 50,000 a week for the first time, The Independent can reveal.
Leaked NHS data shows that last month as many as one in eight patients faced a “trolley wait” – the time between attending A&E and being admitted – longer than 12 hours, as the health service comes under ever greater strain.

twitter.com/rebeccasmt/status/1612881211738800132?s=46&t=hXTGfkJd0FOiv7v7HfO0AA

Record breaking.

itsgettingweird · 10/01/2023 20:55

So, when we were in the EU we weren't in line with other EU countries but now we aren't we need to be. Right. Give me a few weeks and some hallucinogenic drugs and I might be able to work out the logic.

I had to read it numerous times because I just couldn't work it out it's so contradictory to everything the sold us Brexit as.

But nope - those drugs are required Grin

DuncinToffee · 10/01/2023 21:51

Guess it is easier to whatabout Spain and France than say China and Russia

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DuncinToffee · 11/01/2023 08:50

You what now

Thought this fake news. Turns out to be the sad truth! Shame on #Sunak

MP sacked over porn allegations to oversee #onlinesafetybill

twitter.com/thatginamiller/status/1612826640735666177?t=5-88FSr94_oQ1WyVer9ezg&s=19

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DuncinToffee · 11/01/2023 10:51

Partygate

EXCL: Boris Johnson joked about being at ‘the most unsocially distanced party in the UK’ during lockdown.

Explosive new revelations in our podcast series Partygate: The Inside Story have key implications for Privileges Committee.

twitter.com/PaulBrandITV/status/1613055409962590208?t=Ypwt-ePypns-k-dAQwUm8A&s=19

www.itv.com/news/2023-01-10/exclusive-boris-johnson-joked-about-most-unsocially-distanced-party-in-the-uk

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DuncinToffee · 11/01/2023 11:32

Chevyimpala67 · 10/01/2023 12:22

About time
The man is a pig

He now has his whip suspended

Tory Chief Whip Simon Hart: “Andrew Bridgen has crossed a line, causing great offence in the process. Misinformation about the vaccine causes harm and costs lives.”

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DuncinToffee · 11/01/2023 11:35

DuncinToffee · 11/01/2023 11:32

He now has his whip suspended

Tory Chief Whip Simon Hart: “Andrew Bridgen has crossed a line, causing great offence in the process. Misinformation about the vaccine causes harm and costs lives.”

This tweet appears to have been the one that crossed the line..
twitter.com/PippaCrerar/status/1613135562763866113?t=-oxsUdMU3iwOQQm8GhgtZA&s=19

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Notonthestairs · 11/01/2023 11:50

Fucks sakes, the man is an absolute idiot. Always has been but was a useful stooge.

Not in the least bit surprised by the Johnson quote nor the suggestion that we only know about 50% of the gatherings. Even the ones we did know about weren't investigated.

But fascinating to see so many bring back Boris articles dotted about just as Privileges Committee meets to decide their timetable for the next couple of months. I suspect Johnsonians are hoping to sway MPs when it comes to them voting on any punishment later this year.

Cornettoninja · 11/01/2023 12:11

Re: PMQ’s - I do wish RS would stop talking about ‘eliminating’ NHS waiting lists. It sounds threatening and like they’re basically planning on bumping people off.

I wouldn’t be in a state of shock if they were mind…

Eve · 11/01/2023 13:37

Cornettoninja · 11/01/2023 12:11

Re: PMQ’s - I do wish RS would stop talking about ‘eliminating’ NHS waiting lists. It sounds threatening and like they’re basically planning on bumping people off.

I wouldn’t be in a state of shock if they were mind…

am sure I spotted somewhere on mumsnet last week there is a consultation going on with regard to euthanasia. I did think at the time it’s a conveniently timely just as the aging population crisis develops.

Eve · 11/01/2023 13:43

Can’t find the mumsnet link, but parliamentary link

committees.parliament.uk/committee/81/health-and-social-care-committee/news/174845/mps-launch-new-inquiry-on-assisted-dyingassisted-suicide/

I do support as dementia runs in my family & I don’t want to endure that , but I don’t want to be a convenient govt cost saving!

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