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Four children

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03X · 22/08/2022 18:02

Do you know anyone with 4 children? What do you think of them?
80% of me would love another child but a part of me worries about judgement. Which isn’t a reason not to have one, but wondering what the general consensus is.

I know lots with 3, one with 4 (twins), another with 4 (all same sex) and one with 5. That’s about it! It’s mostly 2x2 families in my area & my family members have had max 3. I’m an only child!

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rerr · 23/08/2022 12:20

I have 3 and would love one more. Think it's to do with turning 40 yesterday. Mine are 6,4, and 16 months. It's a case of now or never for me as I don't want a bigger gap. My husband would love one more as well.

SarahWoodruff · 23/08/2022 12:24

I wouldn't judge but would wonder if they had contingency plans if a parent became unwell/lost a job/prices went up etc. 4 kids can't leave much room for manoeuvre unless you're hugely well-off.

drinkallthecoffee · 23/08/2022 12:24

Four is a lot but I'm not sure I'd think much of it. I know someone having a fifth and just think that's selfish. That could just be because I know them and what they're like as a parent though.

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Notplayingball · 23/08/2022 13:11

Wishihadanalgorithm · 23/08/2022 10:37

Most people I know have 1 or 2. There are a few with 3 but don’t think I know of anyone with 4 or more. Having said that I am the youngest of 6 and even that was a lot 40+ years ago.

All I can think of is how difficult it must be to get around with 4 - what size car would you have?

Cabin crew van as it's great for leg room as the kids get older.

Sandrine1982 · 23/08/2022 13:14

I have one and it's really hard work. 4 is madness I think ... but I don't judge.... it's just admiration.

Notplayingball · 23/08/2022 13:19

SarahWoodruff · 23/08/2022 12:24

I wouldn't judge but would wonder if they had contingency plans if a parent became unwell/lost a job/prices went up etc. 4 kids can't leave much room for manoeuvre unless you're hugely well-off.

You have a similar argument with one child surely though? If both parents got wiped out in an accident, what happens then?

No one likes to think of these scenarios. Best solution is not to have any at all if looking at the world in that view...

Lovegossip · 23/08/2022 13:20

My mum had 4 though 13 year gap between 2&3, divorce etc so it was like 2 groups of bringing up kids, I was 21 when number 4 was born and already left home

ColonelCarter · 23/08/2022 15:30

Ragwort · 23/08/2022 03:57

Unless people are really blunt you aren't going to know if anyone 'judges' you or not. Confused. I have an only DC (by choice) no one has ever said to my face 'aren't you going to have another?' Or 'your DC must be lonely' but from the posts I read on Mumsnet probably some people do judge my decision.

I can only think of two families close to me with four DC ... it's very hard work and just not possible for the DC to have much individual attention - but maybe not everyone needs or wants that. Like a PP mentions - I would find the chaos and noise levels overwhelming.

Exactly. My mum is the only person with 4 or more kids that knows I judge parents of large families. On the occasions I do meet larger families I keep my judgement under my hat! I'm not stupid enough vocalise most of what I judge!

ColonelCarter · 23/08/2022 15:33

Notplayingball · 23/08/2022 13:19

You have a similar argument with one child surely though? If both parents got wiped out in an accident, what happens then?

No one likes to think of these scenarios. Best solution is not to have any at all if looking at the world in that view...

1 child is much easier to cope with financially though if you lost your job due to redundancy or I'll health - it's one mouth to feed, one pair of school shoes, one uniform etc. And you'd get tax credits and child benefit to help with 1 or 2 kids.

I'd have taken on my sister's eldest 2 had she died, but couldn't contemplate adding 4 to our household and they'd likely be split up in foster care.

Epicstorm · 23/08/2022 15:43

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I would just feel jealous! I would have loved more.

That's exactly how I feel.

MsRinky · 23/08/2022 15:59

I would never voice my judgement to anyone IRL, but I do think having that many kids is a kind of arrogance, that the world simply must have more of them, despite the ever increasing pressure on resources. Sorry, but you did ask...

user73783 · 23/08/2022 16:26

You have a similar argument with one child surely though? If both parents got wiped out in an accident, what happens then?

Being a single parent to 4 children will be much harder than 1, and let's face it statistically it's more likely the relationship will break down than someone dying, which I will still be more difficult the more children you have.

pinklavenders · 23/08/2022 16:33

I have two and tbh that's hard enough work and expensive enough..! Two works well in terms of cars, taxis, restaurants, hotel rooms etc etc

Cheeselog · 23/08/2022 16:34

No one I know has more than 3 kids. It’s much more common to just have 1. There’s (rightly) a lot of backlash around the environmental consequences of having lots of children and I think it also just results in a worse life for all of you - less time, less money, no real benefit to the children to having a third sibling beyond the initial 2 either.

pinklavenders · 23/08/2022 16:36

Also, the world's population is getting quite large... think about the global food supply issues, the environmental factors etc

Cheeselog · 23/08/2022 16:38

03X · 23/08/2022 10:07

It is quite overwhelming at times with 3, but I think having a baby/toddler is overwhelming full stop.
DH works long shifts so I quite often have the 3 of them alone, I do also work full time (90% from home) so I get me time - obviously I’d prefer me time doing something else but needs must!
But I do love maternity leave.

No right or wrong decision, to the PP who mentioned time for current children, I mean it’s impossible to give the same time/money with 4 that you’d give 3. But does an extra sibling enrich their lives, both their childhood & future? I know I always wanted a sister. Maybe, maybe not I guess!

I have a sister and it’s not all it’s cracked up to be!

pinklavenders · 23/08/2022 16:39

I mean it’s impossible to give the same time/money with 4 that you’d give 3. But does an extra sibling enrich their lives, both their childhood & future?

The 'benefit' of the first child is probably greatest!

Personally I feel that 2 parents looking after 2 children works well!

LovinglifeAF · 23/08/2022 16:39

I don’t think anything about them, I’m just glad it’s not me.

Chakraleaf · 23/08/2022 16:56

pinklavenders · 23/08/2022 16:39

I mean it’s impossible to give the same time/money with 4 that you’d give 3. But does an extra sibling enrich their lives, both their childhood & future?

The 'benefit' of the first child is probably greatest!

Personally I feel that 2 parents looking after 2 children works well!

We have 2 older then an 8yr gap and 2 younger. It's worked out really well for us.

Chakraleaf · 23/08/2022 16:57

Cheeselog · 23/08/2022 16:34

No one I know has more than 3 kids. It’s much more common to just have 1. There’s (rightly) a lot of backlash around the environmental consequences of having lots of children and I think it also just results in a worse life for all of you - less time, less money, no real benefit to the children to having a third sibling beyond the initial 2 either.

I honestly only know 1 person with 1 child.

Luckynumbereight · 23/08/2022 17:00

I would never, ever, ever say something but I silently judge and look upon large families with utter disgust. Most of my friends feel the same.

It’s my planet too, you know.

pinklavenders · 23/08/2022 17:09

I would judge (negatively!) too.

JaneFondue · 23/08/2022 17:11

I struggle to see how anyone other than Jacob Rees- Mogg can afford it. Especially in these times where one or the other parent can easily be out of work. It seems incredibly risky.

PhoebusItMeansSunGod · 23/08/2022 17:24

Luckynumbereight · 23/08/2022 17:00

I would never, ever, ever say something but I silently judge and look upon large families with utter disgust. Most of my friends feel the same.

It’s my planet too, you know.

Well that's nice isn't it. I'll my paternal grandmother that. She was an indigenous woman who had 11 children (I suspect most of them unwillingly).

Luckynumbereight · 23/08/2022 18:25

PhoebusItMeansSunGod · 23/08/2022 17:24

Well that's nice isn't it. I'll my paternal grandmother that. She was an indigenous woman who had 11 children (I suspect most of them unwillingly).

This discussion is not about your paternal grandmother.

This discussion is about willingly having four children in 2022, when climate change is a real thing and there is a massive recession looming.