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Jack monroe challenged on twitter

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KarlWrenbury · 02/08/2022 13:42

Maybe by a sock puppet account Etc but yes- how are they still not making ends meet after all this time ?

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EsmaCannonball · 07/08/2022 11:42

It's all meant to be a big Tory conspiracy, but I also questioned Rishi Sunak's finances (on here) when his morally dubious tax arrangements were exposed.

I just want her claims backed up with verifiable evidence and the contradictions, from her own posts, explained.

FictionalCharacter · 07/08/2022 12:03

BlossomsOnATree · 07/08/2022 11:15

It does show how some people seem to think that if you have, or claim, even second-hand, some kind of protected characteristic, that means you cannot reasonably be criticised at all. ANY criticism, however well backed up with evidence, is actually just transphobia/homophobia/racism/ND-phobia/disability-phobia/take your pick.

that isn’t what’s meant by “protected” but I’m starting to realise some people really do think it is. If you are trans (even though absolutely anyone can simply say they are and that’s all that’s needed), gay, disabled etc then anyone saying anything other than unadulterated praise is wrong and evil. It’s bizarre.

On that note it’s interesting that she claims to have several disabilities, as well as other protected characteristics, and other personal circumstances that are seen as disadvantageous (calls herself a single parent but co-parents with her son’s dad). She’s collecting the kind of identities that encourage people to support her.
It was a bit odd when she suddenly announced she was trans. Predictably there was a lot of applause, but it wasn’t at all clear what she meant. Then she said NB, which at least made some sense. It really did look like another identity to add to her collection.

Motorcycleemptyness · 07/08/2022 13:15

I am genuinely scratching my head at the threats to sue. Who is she going to sue? Herself for talking inconsistent shite? The whole of twitter for taking the piss out of her rinsed spaghetti hoops recipe?

SqueakyShoe · 07/08/2022 13:55

She's wasted so much energy and opportunity on messy Twitter spats.

Telling the world that you're nearly destitute again after lots of book deals is selling the story that there is no end to tinned peach curry and rinsing spaghetti hoops.

People need hope.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 07/08/2022 13:57

I was aware she had suggested buying baked beans as a cheap way to get hold of haricot beans, washing off the sauce so you could just use the haricot beans for something else. That makes marginally more sense, but still unappealing.

I've actually done this before, it is ok if you need white beans for a recipe when they are going to be in a sauce etc. I needed haricot beans once for a cassoulet recipe and local shop didn't have any so I remembered this tip from MN, it may or may not have originated from Jack Monroe! They tasted fine as part of what was quite a fancy stew!

darisdet · 07/08/2022 14:01

SqueakyShoe · 07/08/2022 13:55

She's wasted so much energy and opportunity on messy Twitter spats.

Telling the world that you're nearly destitute again after lots of book deals is selling the story that there is no end to tinned peach curry and rinsing spaghetti hoops.

People need hope.

I've said something similar. I genuinely didn't know, until I saw this thread, that she was claiming to still be in poverty.

I agree. What hope does that give for many of her followers.

JohnsShirt · 07/08/2022 14:01

Motorcycleemptyness · 07/08/2022 13:15

I am genuinely scratching my head at the threats to sue. Who is she going to sue? Herself for talking inconsistent shite? The whole of twitter for taking the piss out of her rinsed spaghetti hoops recipe?

It's making her look even stupider than she already does.

BlossomsOnATree · 07/08/2022 14:09

I've used baked beans in stews and chillis, but I just chuck the sauce in too. It's just tomato sauce - just reduce the other tomato element a bit.

Motorcycleemptyness · 07/08/2022 14:13

Although not sure anything will top JM claiming people discussing their inconsistent story on a SATURDAY is somehow anti-semitism. The grift that keeps on giving.

JemimaPuddlegoose · 07/08/2022 14:23

As a Jewish woman, I am honestly really upset at her lying about antisemitism, and some of her tweets have used antisemitic dog whistle terms.

The original tweet thread by the Molly poster was on a MONDAY!

Ereshkigalangcleg · 07/08/2022 14:25

someone on Twitter today compared it with gender ideology and I think they’ve got a point.

It's a very accurate comparison.

Cloud9isnowclosed · 07/08/2022 14:25

There is someone on twitter who works in an advice agency - presuming CAB or similar thanking JM for the Vimes Boots Index - saying it helps them in their work. How can something that doesn't exist help anyone??

Her Grenfell blog is interesting insight into her way of seeing the world/extrapolating experience - she was a call handler at the fire brigade but presents herself in the blog as an expert on fires...

web.archive.org/web/20170711192841/cookingonabootstrap.com/2017/06/16/we-need-to-talk-about-grenfell/

JubileeTrifle · 07/08/2022 14:29

JohnsShirt · 07/08/2022 14:01

It's making her look even stupider than she already does.

Last time she threatened to sue (Fox) she got a load of donations to her PayPal account to do it. No mention of it since. Maybe not stupid.

ReneBumsWombats · 07/08/2022 14:35

JemimaPuddlegoose · 07/08/2022 14:23

As a Jewish woman, I am honestly really upset at her lying about antisemitism, and some of her tweets have used antisemitic dog whistle terms.

The original tweet thread by the Molly poster was on a MONDAY!

I'm very sorry for your distress. May I ask what the dog whistles were?

JemimaPuddlegoose · 07/08/2022 14:47

She kept using the word "cabal" (which is a word of Jewish origin and often used as an AS dog whistle), invoked conspiracy theories of "cabals" who are plotting against her in tweets that directly reference Jews and powerful Jews, and has made references to her "Jewish lawyer" using wording that implies that he's powerful and wealthy.

Now to be strictly fair she's not claiming the "cabals" who are plotting against her are Jewish, but the opposite: that these powerful cabals are against her because of her powerful and wealthy Jewish lawyer. But she's explicitly linking Jews with money, Jews with wealth, and Jews with powerful shadow cabals, all of which are known AS tropes.

SpindleTurning · 07/08/2022 14:50

mariatje · 07/08/2022 07:29

Just to add, that doesn't include any advances she gets for her books. I got an advance of £750 for my first academic book in 2019 (which is more than the royalties will ever come to). Someone who is in the top 300 bestsellers on Amazon is bound to get much more than that.

I wish her all the best and I hope she can continue the campaigning while being honest about who and what she is.

A tangent but ... don't forget to register your works with ALCS and PLR (the latter is now part of the British Library). I earn a 'few bob' every year from this.

TootsAtOwls · 07/08/2022 15:02

It's very odd that if you do a search of Jack Monroe on Twitter today it comes up with tons of tweets supporting her, and none of the piss-taking ones.

I do get what people are saying about the ridicule of the recipes distracting from the proven dishonesty. But as a formerly poor person (who still lives paycheck to paycheck) I can confirm that when you're really hungry, you would never rinse calories off your food. Not even if you'd had the same flavour for days on end. You just wouldn't 🤷‍♀️

SweetSakura · 07/08/2022 15:03

Just seen a link in twitter to an interesting article in the Scotsman...

www.scotsman.com/news/opinion/columnists/are-cynical-social-media-influencers-exploiting-the-backlash-against-online-abuse-to-deflect-scrutiny-laura-waddell-3055303

(Screenshot of a particularly telling paragraph)

Jack monroe challenged on twitter
SweetSakura · 07/08/2022 15:04

Actually that isn't the best paragraph! I don't know what happened there.

JohnPrescottsPyjamas · 07/08/2022 15:39

Definitely DARVO narcissist behaviour.

HobnobsChoice · 07/08/2022 16:41

SweetSakura · 07/08/2022 15:03

Just seen a link in twitter to an interesting article in the Scotsman...

www.scotsman.com/news/opinion/columnists/are-cynical-social-media-influencers-exploiting-the-backlash-against-online-abuse-to-deflect-scrutiny-laura-waddell-3055303

(Screenshot of a particularly telling paragraph)

I think you might have meant this paragraph

Jack monroe challenged on twitter
SweetSakura · 07/08/2022 17:34

@HobnobsChoice - yes!

Gr33ngr33ngr4ss · 07/08/2022 18:21

All of this could have been avoided if she hadn't put out the begging thread and just done what everyone else does and work for a living and not piddle around on Twitter.

I reckon 10% of the population know who she is and less than half have any kind of interest. She could easily be a saviour to the ones who care by doing the poverty porn thing but every time she brings her own suffering into it, she gets attacked. I suspect that feeds a victim mentality as well as the tip jar and its a calculated risk. You can bask in the online fawning from fans.

I really do hope she takes a break and someone persuades her to seek support. I refuse to believe she's entirely bad. Few people are.

Bibbetyboo · 07/08/2022 19:34

@Cloud9isnowclosed she was in firefighter training which will have included how fires spread and protocol.

She broke up with a partner in the last few months, that is what precipitated the recent money issues - going from paying 50% of rent to all of it.

Bibbetyboo · 07/08/2022 19:35

People don’t have to be perfect to do good for others.

i find it bizarre that people are so invested. Be less angry about someone getting donations from someone potentially on UC; be more angry about the ridiculously low levels of UC and treatment of people on benefits to the point of suicide.

this is all very misguided.

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