Jack monroe challenged on twitter

[KarlWrenbury]

Maybe by a sock puppet account Etc but yes- how are they still not making ends meet after all this time ?

[ReneBumsWombats]

She'd be horrendous in campaign management. Even the Trussell Trust has has to distance itself from her.

It's a classic case of thinking that showing extreme passion makes you right. Campaign managers need to think practically about the cause, not what makes individuals look good, in their own eyes, on Twitter.

[Thornethorn]

She's nasty and vindictive to people who question her.

Sounds like you've got lots in common.

[ToppCat]

@IAmAWomanNotACis

"She doesn't seem to actually DO anything? Most people would use their profile to earn money - either she hasn't worked to do that or hasn't managed to... She hasn't leveraged it effectively."

She is doing a hell of a lot (of good), it just seems to be that she's not doing whatever effectively to pay her bills.

I've followed her on Twitter for a while, and have just read that latest post. I'm a bit gobsmacked at all the stuff people are posting here about her. It is clear that she has quite significant mental and physical health challenges, on top of being neurodiverse and having a well documented trauma history. I don't suppose that is helped by her line of work/activism in the current political or economic situation. She is approached by, and helps a hell of a lot of individual people who are in dire straights, and being faced day in day out with the harsh reality of poverty in other people's lives must take it's toll. Being on the receiving end of comments like those on here and on the twitter thread - daily - must take it's toll.

Should she be off twitter? For her mental wellbeing, perhaps, but it's one of the main places she is present and as a public figure visibility is key.

I just think she is somebody who has a history of trauma (and clearly couldn't afford therapy), who is quite possibly paying off huge debts from her previous time in poverty, who has glaringly obvious mental and physical health difficulties, and is struggling. I don't get all the hate and why people think she is lying. I've been close to people with a not-dissimilar background, and it's fucking hard to pull yourself up out of all that shit.

This.

[ermagerdabear]

She is doing a hell of a lot (of good),

Nobody has actually answered the question of what this is though? What good has she done? What tangible things has she achieved that have helped people in poverty? She was telling people that she helped set up a scheme where anyone can apply for a £49 fuel voucher yesterday that turned out to be not true after being fact checked. Everyone just takes it at face value that she must have done something but when you look more closely, it's all smoke and mirrors.

So before the thread fills up, can anyone actually point to what she's actually done for people other than herself or people in poverty?

[entropynow]

@Thornethorn

She's nasty and vindictive to people who question her.

Sounds like you've got lots in common.

Oh, give over.
She's not beyond criticism and this kind of petty silliness only makes the rest of us suspect her personality cult even more

[entropynow]

@ReneBumsWombats

As dodgy as a lot of this is making her look, I can't help but feel some people have somewhat unreasonable expectations of just how much she can and should do about a national poverty issue that rests primarily with our government.

Not as many as apparently have unreasonable assessments of what she actually has done...

[meadowbleu]

I was just brainstorming and thinking that her skills are her large-ish, public platform and enthusiasm for current issues. I did counter with the difficulties. IDK what else to suggest.

To PPs, from her own words she has 3 therapists on hand and last summer I think it was, spent several weeks living in a London apart hotel while attending some kind of unspecified daily rehab. She’s also spoken on social media about her very expensive monthly private prescription medication.

I think her much publicised financial issues are a result of overspending and not living within her means rather than debts from poverty. Her own accounts of living in reduced circumstances vary wildly. For example she’s written a blog about her ‘terrifying’ situation with this rental property that she took on as part of a dual income couple, but she’s obviously renewed the contract because that relationship broke up a long time ago and there’s been lots of opportunity to rethink since. Her family seem supportive and well placed to help in dire circumstances.

IDK, I think she’s her own worst enemy and the time she spends on line is not spent at all well, either career wise, or for her mental well-being. Some people seem slavishly devoted and egg her on, while others mock and gawp at someone who often seems to unravel.

[PeterPomegranate]

JM worked in fire & rescue control previously. Perhaps she could go back to that. It won’t make you rich but it’s not bad pay. Steady work. And she could still do campaigning on the side (like most campaigners do).

[BoreOfWhabylon]

We only have JM's version of why she left the Fire Service though.

In the words of our own Dear Queen, "Recollections may vary".

[PeterPomegranate]

@BoreOfWhabylon

We only have JM's version of why she left the Fire Service though.

In the words of our own Dear Queen, "Recollections may vary".

True

[ermagerdabear]

She's over on Twitter telling people to cancel their energy direct debits and pay the fuel companies by standing order the amount they think they owe them per month. This is such bad advice. By the time the people that do this realise they're in debt to the companies to the tune of hundreds of pounds, she'll have deleted those tweets 🤦🏼‍♀️

[Bubblebubblebah]

Standing orders also carry different unit costs

What you do is you provide reading every month and have them adjust the dd.

[Bubblebubblebah]

I just saw the replies there😔
County courts and bailiffs will be booming😔

Is this some kind of "I am not going down by myself"? I think it quite shows how many vulnerable people follow JM. And blindly.

[SweetSakura]

I've also seen a question about whether/how easily those paying by standing order would get the cost of living payment thing. Not sure if it will be a problem or not but I would want people to know for sure before they switch

[SweetSakura]

Plus this nugget she has just tweeted, when people raised concerns about running up debts. .In the eyes of the court any payment, no matter how small, goes in favour of the payee as a good faith intention to settle a debt.

[paulmccartneysbagel]

@ermagerdabear

She's over on Twitter telling people to cancel their energy direct debits and pay the fuel companies by standing order the amount they think they owe them per month. This is such bad advice. By the time the people that do this realise they're in debt to the companies to the tune of hundreds of pounds, she'll have deleted those tweets 🤦🏼‍♀️

It's bad advice. Unless you can afford the higher bills in the winter.

I would much rather build up the credit now and spread the cost than have a whopping great big bill in the winter.

[JohnPrescottsPyjamas]

Isn't this a case of, ‘Physician heal thyself’?

If the advice she was always promoting was any use and based on real results, how come she’s up to her own neck in debt then?

[savethebull]

@JohnPrescottsPyjamas

Isn't this a case of, ‘Physician heal thyself’?

If the advice she was always promoting was any use and based on real results, how come she’s up to her own neck in debt then?

Yes this is a bloody good question!

[Ereshkigalangcleg]

I don't get all the hate and why people think she is lying.

Have you actually read why people are saying she is lying?

[ermagerdabear]

@SweetSakura

Plus this nugget she has just tweeted, when people raised concerns about running up debts. .In the eyes of the court any payment, no matter how small, goes in favour of the payee as a good faith intention to settle a debt.

The energy thread she's done is so irresponsible, I'm actually angry. She has no fucking idea what she's talking about, but people will follow her advice because she's a trusted 'poverty campaigner'. I really hope someone calls her out on it (like Martin Lewis, but I think he's up her arse as well).

[Ereshkigalangcleg]

I wouldn't trust her with anything that involved responsibility or integrity. So anything, then.

[JubileeTrifle]

She’s given misinformation out in the past, particularly about benefits.

[JohnPrescottsPyjamas]

@savethebull

Yes this is a bloody good question!

The most successful campaigns, surely, are those based on, ‘This worked for me, see how my life has turned around? You could easily achieve the same results by simply following xyz”?

Why on earth would anyone blindly follow the advice of a self appointed guru whose own (self acknowledged) lifestyle appears to be still totally chaotic and still struggles to economise themselves after 10 years of writing/selling help guides to others on how to live successfully on a “bootstrap budget”?

Its a bit like the snake oil salesmen from the 19th century.


If only JM was on here because I would love to hear the answer directly from her.

[meadowbleu]

like Martin Lewis, but I think he's up her arse as well

I think that Mark Lewis the media law, privacy and libel lawyer who represented Jack on a no win no fee basis in her Katie Hopkins case, is Martin Lewis' cousin.

[Ereshkigalangcleg]

Why on earth would anyone blindly follow the advice of a self appointed guru whose own (self acknowledged) lifestyle appears to be still totally chaotic and still struggles to economise themselves after 10 years of writing/selling help guides to others on how to live successfully on a “bootstrap budget”?

Why indeed.