Do you believe in any ‘conspiracy theories’?

[SaveTheSharks]

Just that really. If so, which ones? 9/11 an inside job? JFK murdered by the American government? 5G? Chemtrails? The royal family are lizard?

I always maintain I don’t believe in anything, but at the same time there’s so much I don’t know and I do believe the government are up to some shady crap that we will never learn about…

Multiple Melania dupes!

You need to read more Dan Brown! 😂

Money was apparently given to warlords in Ethiopia to buy guns

They do indeed

Good grief.

This might help change your mind!

www.iop.org/explore-physics/moon/how-do-we-know-we-went-to-the-moon#gref

Can we have a clue?

I thought it was 'proven' quite early on that Dr David Kelly did not commit suicide due to how his wrists were cut not in keeping with his prominent hand.

American and British government both involved in 9/11 and 7/7 so that we could start a 'war on terror' go after Sadam, who had nothing to do with either and whip the Western world up into a frenzy bringing about an end to what had been some peaceful times.

Diana was taken out. That Merc wasn't clipped or crashed due to a flash. Those things are built like tanks at their cheapest. This one was crushed.

Of course CV19 came from the Wuhan lab. The first city to be locked down. However the Americans were paying them to research so who leaked it?

I can't say that I'd heard of Robin Cook being a CT who knows

I'm always puzzled when MNers say that CTs find comfort or reassurance in their beliefs, though I must say it's a view I only hear on this board. (Like the god awful "old age is better than the alternative").

CTs are mostly terrifying, I don't want to believe these things about poor David Kelly or to worry about what they'll release on the Tube next. Nothing reassuring about any of it.

Or Holy Blood Holy Grail 😂

I reckon If this were true then the state would have fixed its sights higher up on more influential and more successful criminals than the Essex Boys who were relatively small fry. They were not big names. But I do think there was something very dodgy going on in respect of the actual murders, and the police 'investigation' and subsequent convictions.

This is true, however they were on their way to becoming big names, and the father of Leah Betts, who died after taking ecstasy they supplied, was a Police officer. Not suggested he was involved but possibly a revenge thing, as her case was so well known.

Delta important to note that poor Leah died from drinking too much water.

I’m also interested in this, as I was told by someone who worked in a prison that the female of a notorious duo had been abused into playing her minimal part, and was apparently released with a new identity.

I wonder if this is the same person.
Of course it might all be bullshit, but it’s something I’ve heard from a few sources.

I think the main thing that prevents me believing conspiracy theories is having worked with many governments and similar institutions (military etc) - the average person can’t keep a secret, even with security clearance. Moreover, large institutions tend towards the Dunning Kruger effect; hundreds or thousands of people are needed to keep a conspiracy secret, and with a good proportion of any population either a) chatty, b) incompetent or c) both, it’s just not going to stay under wraps for long.

Which is of course why we do know about many of them - MK Ultra springs to mind. It’s also a good rule of thumb as to why the moon landing wasn’t faked, for example; waaaay too many people would have to be in on it, and waaaaay more would have said something than had been claimed.

I should add, the chatty/incompetent axis is even worse when it comes to those online ‘truth seekers’ who think they’re following some kind of breadcrumbs that only they (and their friends) can see, despite having zero forensic background , next to no historical / political / anything knowledge, and seriously below average IQs - looking at you, QAnon followers.

I have just listened to a podcast about the assassination of Robert Kennedy and it was interesting how the evidence found differs to the official story of what happened.

I think you’ve hit the nail on the head. I remember during the trial when I was a lot younger thinking there doesn’t seem to be something right about it all. Then I found a very interesting blog a few years later that made me think hmm 🧐

Tell me you know absolutely fuck all without cancer, without telling me you know absolutely fuck all about cancer.

There is no single 'cure for cancer' and there never will be.

I think there's a distinction between theories which are completely at odds with the way the world, human beings, physics and organisations work, and theories which I happen not to subscribe to but are feasible.

So "we never went to the moon" seems completely impossible, along with "little green men are visiting us but the government is covering it up", "there's a simple cure for cancer but big pharma are covering it up", "the twin towers were blown up by the US government explosives not plane strikes".

But "Aldrin and Armstrong went to the moon but the actual TV footage we saw of the moon landing was faked", along with "David Kelley was murdered", "the bullet that killed JFK came from a panicked secret service agent's gun" are possible .I don't necessarily believe them, but I can't immediately dismiss them as bollocks on the grounds that that's not the way the world works.

Do you have a link to the blog?

PM it if you’d rather, I know people can understandably get very angry over it!

@Lbnc2021

Could I have a link as well please thanks

Let me try and find it later, it’s been years since I read it. I’m just taking the kids out in a wee while but I’ll try and find it tonight and PM you both.

The USA and Britain have given Ukraine billion for weapons etc. The USA know that some of the weapons/cash has been passed on to ISIS.

names?!

Yep, very true, but that was as a result of taking ecstasy that was supplied to her from within the club. A very tragic event, and I don't mean to derail the thread.