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Boris Johnson, FPN's, and Sue Gray report due. Thread 5

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Roussette · 19/05/2022 17:10

www.mumsnet.com/talk/_chat/4545092-boris-and-his-fines-part-4

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Blossomtoes · 01/06/2022 12:55

DuncinToffee · 01/06/2022 12:51

7 times the Met came to Boris Johnson’s rescue on Partygate

twitter.com/ByDonkeys/status/1531935642099372033?t=pE7WyAutbBzbjFkHDRef5Q&s=19

Unbelievable. Yet they managed this

Sarah Everard vigil: Met Police charges four attendees www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-61659260

DuncinToffee · 01/06/2022 13:01

Adam Bienkov

First question to Boris Johnson during his Mumsnet Q+A:

"Why should we believe anything you say when it has been proven you are a habitual liar?”

Mumsnet founder Justine Roberts tells Johnson that this is “a typical question that sums up the mood on Mumsnet."

DuncinToffee · 01/06/2022 13:02

Sarah Everard vigil: Met Police charges four attendees

That is shocking Angry

Blossomtoes · 01/06/2022 13:04

DuncinToffee · 01/06/2022 13:02

Sarah Everard vigil: Met Police charges four attendees

That is shocking Angry

Isn’t it? The Met’s rotten to the core.

jgw1 · 01/06/2022 13:08

Dashdotdotdash · 01/06/2022 09:09

I find the contrast between Raab's and Grieve's approach really quite saddening. They're both lawyers. For good lawyers, concepts of right, justice and the rule of law become almost the fibre of their being, and no matter what their political affiliation they will not close their eyes to blatant law-breaking and trashing of rights. That is essentially Grieve's position. Raab, on the other hand, simply doesn't care about inconvenient concepts like that and puts his political career first.

But I find it really puzzling that he continues to do so when he is in a marginal seat and therefore he cannot hope to be re-elected if Johnson stays in power. He probably can't even if Johnson resigned tomorrow, but at least if distanced himself from Johnson he might be left with a few shreds of credibility and could hope to be parachuted into a safe seat. As matters stand, politicians who have defended Johnson are in distinct danger of going down with him. That's why certain politicians are conspicuous by their absence on breakfast telly on the many, many occasions when Johnson needs a stooge to defend him. But Raab is still mad enough to put himself out there. Maybe Johnson knows where some very inconvenient bodies are buried?

I have to say I assume that Raab is not bright enough to realise what he is doing.

DuncinToffee · 01/06/2022 13:09

Scotland

Polls from Ipsos Scotland and STV News

Lowest satisfaction rating ever recorded for a sitting PM - 83% of Scots dissatisfied with Boris Johnson
Cost of living is the top issue facing Scotland - and 59% say they are worse off than they were a year ago

twitter.com/EmilyIpsosScot/status/1531954069736235008?t=BPkdPEkaeTu3YXZvkeCdcg&s=19

DuncinToffee · 01/06/2022 13:13

DuncinToffee · 01/06/2022 13:01

Adam Bienkov

First question to Boris Johnson during his Mumsnet Q+A:

"Why should we believe anything you say when it has been proven you are a habitual liar?”

Mumsnet founder Justine Roberts tells Johnson that this is “a typical question that sums up the mood on Mumsnet."

Continued

Boris Johnson appears to blame Remainers for allegations that he’s a liar.

“People throw all sorts of accusations at me about all sorts of things, ever since I drove around with a sign on a bus and they have all sorts of reasons for saying that."

Boris Johnson says Partygate has "been a totally miserable experience for people in government."

I can't find it on MN

jgw1 · 01/06/2022 13:13

DuncinToffee · 01/06/2022 13:09

Scotland

Polls from Ipsos Scotland and STV News

Lowest satisfaction rating ever recorded for a sitting PM - 83% of Scots dissatisfied with Boris Johnson
Cost of living is the top issue facing Scotland - and 59% say they are worse off than they were a year ago

twitter.com/EmilyIpsosScot/status/1531954069736235008?t=BPkdPEkaeTu3YXZvkeCdcg&s=19

I'm worried for the 17% of Scots that are satisfied.

Blossomtoes · 01/06/2022 13:14

Boris Johnson says Partygate has "been a totally miserable experience for people in government."

Ah, how sad. My heart bleeds for them. He really is tone deaf, isn’t he?

DuncinToffee · 01/06/2022 13:19

Thread link
twitter.com/AdamBienkov/status/1531968901143220226?t=qHXXIT8PWS5X1GYEddjTwA&s=19

Boris Johnson asked about his parenting skills says that "all I would say is that I'm doing a lot at the moment… I am changing a lot of nappies.”

When asked how he balances his job and parenting he says that “Carrie obviously does a lot more than I do."

Boris Johnson says that "people are throwing all sorts of stuff at me and try to undermine what I'm trying to do.

He says that "when you actually look at the detail of their accusations, they tend to dissolve."

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Peregrina · 01/06/2022 13:25

Boris Johnson appears to blame Remainers for allegations that he’s a liar.

Johnson had been sacked twice for lying long before the Referendum. Try another one.

Piggywaspushed · 01/06/2022 13:26

About ten minutes in. He is not doing a good job. Why is he so bad at answering questions??

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Roussette · 01/06/2022 13:28

How dare he say it's been a miserable experience for those in Govt. They just carried on as normal with their Wine Time Fridays.

My chocolate teapot MP has just said the row over ministerial rules would "undoubtedly contribute" to questions over the PM's leadership.
But he told BBC Radio 4 that "at the moment" he believed the Conservative Party should "leave matters as they are" and "continue with the present PM".
"You've got to actually work out whether that new prime minister is actually going to be a positive asset to the country, compared to what you've got at the moment," he added.

No wonder he hasn't responded to my last THREE letters.

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Piggywaspushed · 01/06/2022 13:29

Oooooo, itsgettingweird, your question is on!! About 7:20.

DuncinToffee · 01/06/2022 13:32

Boris Johnson asked why he thinks attending leaving drinks were justified while people couldn't sday goodbye to loved ones at funerals

He says he was 'simply doing what I thought was right for a leader' to 'keep morale high'

DuncinToffee · 01/06/2022 13:32

Thanks for the link Piggy!

Piggywaspushed · 01/06/2022 13:33

DuncinToffee · 01/06/2022 13:32

Boris Johnson asked why he thinks attending leaving drinks were justified while people couldn't sday goodbye to loved ones at funerals

He says he was 'simply doing what I thought was right for a leader' to 'keep morale high'

That was in reply to itsgettingweird!

Piggywaspushed · 01/06/2022 13:35

He cannot answer the best bedtime book question and is so rude to Justine when she tries to stop him and move on.

Notonthestairs · 01/06/2022 13:36

"Which of the following do you think would make the best Prime Minister? (24-25 May)

Keir Starmer: 33% (+1)
Boris Johnson: 25% (-2)"

yougov.co.uk/topics/politic…

ClaudineClare · 01/06/2022 13:39

Well done for your question @itsgettingweird It made him very uncomfortable. Shame he just waffled.

guinnessguzzler · 01/06/2022 13:40

I honestly cannot express how angry it makes me seeing his ridiculous responses. No self awareness, no responsibility, defending the indefensible and STILL LYING.

ClaudineClare · 01/06/2022 13:41

Blaming the cost of living crisis on the pandemic.

ClaudineClare · 01/06/2022 13:43

guinnessguzzler · 01/06/2022 13:40

I honestly cannot express how angry it makes me seeing his ridiculous responses. No self awareness, no responsibility, defending the indefensible and STILL LYING.

He doesn't care about anything except, to loosely quote Dominic Grieve, clinging onto the windowsill of No. 10 by his fingertips.

Peregrina · 01/06/2022 13:43

I cannot bear to listen to him. Will we get a transcript?