Next time I go to France I'm wearing a headscarf

[LaurieFairyCake]

And I want every woman of faith (any faith) or no faith to do the same if that fucker wins

(Marine le Bastard is saying women are not allowed to wear head scarves in France and that they will be fined)

Marine le Bastard? That deserves official status on Mumsnet.

I thought we supported women leading major nations? I am sure in reality she won't be anywhere near as controversial as she says she will be, and Macron is a slimy weasel - I would do almost anything to see him turfed out.

It is also an exciting election! Nailbiting. Just seen one poll that puts Le Pen in front! That will put the frighteners up all those lazy, arrogant and overly comfortable elitists of Macron's for sure....

That will show her. 🙄

Wear what you want. Don't tell any other woman what to do or wear because that makes you the same as Le Pen.

No we don't support women leading major nations if they want to suppress their freedoms

They're going to fine women for wearing headscarves !

Even though these women may choose to or may feel they have to

She's basically saying you can't be Muslim in France

The irony at 'wear what you want'

The point is you're not going to be allowed to

@Swayingpalmtrees

I thought we supported women leading major nations? I am sure in reality she won't be anywhere near as controversial as she says she will be, and Macron is a slimy weasel - I would do almost anything to see him turfed out.

Not if they're fascists, obviously. The woman is vile beyond words.

France has enough problems with racism without this woman stirring up more.

Wow, I can't believe anyone seriously thinks a right wing maniac is a good bet to run any country because she's a woman 🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️

I support women's rights to wear what they choose, but I will not cover my hair myself.

I think France has always been a secular country - it's forbidden to wear anything religious in work or at school. So you can't wear a cross for example. Schools aren't allowed to celebrate anything religious.

www.diplomatie.gouv.fr/en/coming-to-france/france-facts/secularism-and-religious-freedom-in-france-63815/article/secularism-and-religious-freedom-in-france

Not saying it's OK but the law banning wearing religious clothing goes back a while, so it's not necessarily something that has been brought in to be anti-Muslim.

I guess the issue is that the population has changed and the laws have stayed the same.

I think it will cause problems in society if Le Pen gets into power.

Banning them in schools along with all other religious symbols Inclusing the cross. Ok.
Banning only the headscarf in public? Not ok.

She's saying banning in public AND getting the police to fine people for wearing them

It’s not just women who practice Islam though - it’s many different faiths. It wasn’t long ago that the majority wore a head covering here. I don’t get why this is an issue . If they want to tackle extremism then how about tackling the inequality and racism? How about insisting upon education for all and not allowing women and girls to disappear / it’s the same here until we stop turning a blind eye and rooting out the injustice we get no where.

@converseandjeans

I think France has always been a secular country - it's forbidden to wear anything religious in work or at school. So you can't wear a cross for example. Schools aren't allowed to celebrate anything religious.

www.diplomatie.gouv.fr/en/coming-to-france/france-facts/secularism-and-religious-freedom-in-france-63815/article/secularism-and-religious-freedom-in-france

Not saying it's OK but the law banning wearing religious clothing goes back a while, so it's not necessarily something that has been brought in to be anti-Muslim.

I guess the issue is that the population has changed and the laws have stayed the same.

I think it will cause problems in society if Le Pen gets into power.

She has specifically attacked the headscarf as being, among other things a symbol of Islamic terrorism.

I’d have a different opinion if it was along the lines of ‘Franfe is secular blah2’ but she has singled out Islam specifically.

I wonder what they do about Nuns and private schools?

There looks to be lots of support for banning face veils and scarves. They banned them back in 2011.

Women in other parts of the world are fighting not having to but if it makes you happy...

It's up to the people of France who they vote for .

This made me look at what’s happening with election. I didn’t realise it was so close between Macron and Le Pen

Additionally they do not allow religious symbols, and things like veils etc in France it is considered to be oppression.
I don't agree with it, as it takes away personal choice, but I can see why they don't want little girls in school wearing them. They are restrictive.

Le Pen looks like Mother Theresa compared to the alternative runner, Eric Zemmour. France have always been rebellious, this has been brewing for years.

if women feel they have to cover their hair, isn't that a problem we should be looking at?

the fact that hair can be fetishised to the point where it's seen as indecent not to wear one really bothers me.

Plenty of room for an 'accident' Marsha
Markets are jittery so maybe there is good reason to be worried.

Undecicive I want them to fight not to have to wear them - I think it's oppressive too (and against what Mohammed said)

But for a million different reasons there must be freedom to be allowed to wear them (as DV charities call for this too)

I don't want women to HAVE to cover their hair but they must be allowed to (and to live in France)

@BlackLambAndGreyFalcon

I support women's rights to wear what they choose, but I will not cover my hair myself.

Even when its raining or when you dont want it to get wet in the shower or with a white veil at your wedding?