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EsmaCannonball · 19/03/2022 15:59

A journalist from a publication called Black Sea News is claiming that Russia has laid mines in commercial routes in the Black Sea. Meanwhile Russia is claiming that it is blocking ships in the Black Sea to protect them from Ukrainian mines.

PestorPeston · 19/03/2022 16:01

Periodically people ask what normal life is like in Ukraine.
There is food in Kyiv shops and the market is on.

twitter.com/andersostlund/status/1505184886168162305
Report from Kyiv. Took a walk in the neighbourhood and it wasn't so bad. I saw a local street market, very common in "normal" Kyiv but not seen for the last three weeks. Limited offer but still plenty of cabbage, potatoes and some vegetables.

Yes, the situation in the East and South is very different.

Ijsbear · 19/03/2022 16:11

So any bombardment/invasion from the sea by the Russians would have to be from the ships they currently have in the Black Sea and they can't be replaced shock

What an awful pity we can't send one of Elon Musk's famous little submarines, loaded with explosives.

Or some nice Somali pirates because their inflatables are too fast for normal shipweopons to target, apparently. They can get much closer much faster than expected and cause real harm. Hm, can someone suggest sending inflatables to Zelensky?

PaperTyger · 19/03/2022 16:15

@Alexandra2001

I appreciate your Passion but having NATO forces patroling the black sea is a no go I'm afraid.

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MagicFox · 19/03/2022 16:17

Does anybody understand what the significance of the American destroyer ship in the Taiwan strait was about? Angry response from China

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Snorkelface · 19/03/2022 16:23

@MagicFox

Does anybody understand what the significance of the American destroyer ship in the Taiwan strait was about? Angry response from China

In connection to Ukraine?

Original poster

MagicFox · 19/03/2022 16:25

I don't know, it all seems interrelated these days

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Igotjelly · 19/03/2022 16:33

CNN reporting that the US was able to track Russia’s hypersonic missile in real time….not very hypersonic then was it?

shreddednips · 19/03/2022 16:36

@Igotjelly

CNN reporting that the US was able to track Russia’s hypersonic missile in real time….not very hypersonic then was it?

😆 they seem rather keen to 'admit' to that one.

shreddednips · 19/03/2022 16:43

I'm a bit confused by the CNN coverage! It says that US officials confirmed that Russia used hypersonic missiles, but that they could track them. Unless they're inviting us to read between the lines 😁

EsmaCannonball · 19/03/2022 17:04

As for life in Ukraine, I've read accounts from relatives of those under siege saying that people who were living normal lives less than a month ago are now melting snow and burning furniture to survive. Some people are wondering if they will have to eats their pets or to kill their pets to put them out of the misery of starving to death. People are burying food and important documents because Russians are raiding their homes. One woman was told that Russians had occupied her family home. They burned her mother's books for fuel and smashed all the furniture and windows before they left.

Igotjelly · 19/03/2022 17:05

@EsmaCannonball

As for life in Ukraine, I've read accounts from relatives of those under siege saying that people who were living normal lives less than a month ago are now melting snow and burning furniture to survive. Some people are wondering if they will have to eats their pets or to kill their pets to put them out of the misery of starving to death. People are burying food and important documents because Russians are raiding their homes. One woman was told that Russians had occupied her family home. They burned her mother's books for fuel and smashed all the furniture and windows before they left.

It always terrifies me just how quickly life can change!

PestorPeston · 19/03/2022 17:15

The snow is pretty much gone in Mariupol now.
They are effectively under siege.
Getting clean water will be vital, otherwise things like cholera take hold and the Russians start bouncing up and down saying 'I told you so'

Onceuponatimeinalandfaraway · 19/03/2022 17:28

Has anyone heard if the MoD caught up with the four awol soldiers they’d been trying to intercept?

AgnesWestern · 19/03/2022 17:38

I went out today with friends and have been enjoying the nice weather. I’ve not been looking at this thread as often or social media/the news and I have been feeling much better for it.

Just thought I’d mention that in case others want to do the same, especially if they’re struggling with it all, as I am.

PestorPeston · 19/03/2022 17:41

Kinzhal missiles can go up to 10x the speed of sound, they can't go faster than the speed of light.
You could track them with a combination of FORTE10 and Starlink

Igotjelly · 19/03/2022 18:05

@AgnesWestern

I went out today with friends and have been enjoying the nice weather. I’ve not been looking at this thread as often or social media/the news and I have been feeling much better for it.

Just thought I’d mention that in case others want to do the same, especially if they’re struggling with it all, as I am.

I’m so glad to hear this 💐 we all need a chance to disconnect and recharge at times like these.

Tuba437 · 19/03/2022 18:07

@AgnesWestern

I went out today with friends and have been enjoying the nice weather. I’ve not been looking at this thread as often or social media/the news and I have been feeling much better for it.

Just thought I’d mention that in case others want to do the same, especially if they’re struggling with it all, as I am.

I'm glad it made you feel better. I must say I'm getting to the point now where I'm accepting this may go on for some time. I've done what I can by donating money to help Ukraine. I have huge sympathy for them but my worrying is not going to change the outcome of this conflict.

Yes I absolutely hope peace talks prevail but by consuming myself in the horror that ukraine is facing is not doing myself or my kids any good.

Someone said earlier about Putin loving russia so much. You could see that at his rally he thinks there is no greater thing in the world than Russia. He certainly didn't seem like someone who would risk mutually assured destruction of his beloved country anytime soon.

As @AgnesWestern said, get outside and enjoy the life we are lucky to have. Yes feel sympathy and help the situation where you can. If anything this just goes to show that life is so precious and can be taken away so quickly.

Igotjelly · 19/03/2022 18:29

Just watching the UFC, it’s surprising to see so many Russian athletes still competing.

notimagain · 19/03/2022 18:35

@shreddednips

I'm a bit confused by the CNN coverage! It says that US officials confirmed that Russia used hypersonic missiles, but that they could track them. Unless they're inviting us to read between the lines 😁

No mystery involved…

They certainly aren’t stealthy so there’s no theoretical reason why they cannot be tracked by suitable radar systems and other sensors such as those that work in the infra red…

smilingthroughgrittedteeth · 19/03/2022 18:42

Is anyone else watching channel 4..... what if Putin goes Nuclear

I thought id give it a go as its presented by Jon Snow who ive always found to be fairly rational so hoping it doesnt end up being too scare mongering tv.

Onceuponatimeinalandfaraway · 19/03/2022 18:50

@smilingthroughgrittedteeth

Is anyone else watching channel 4..... what if Putin goes Nuclear

I thought id give it a go as its presented by Jon Snow who ive always found to be fairly rational so hoping it doesnt end up being too scare mongering tv.

I was t, but I’ll put it on now once the news I started watching twenty minutes ago finishes.

I’m still waiting for last Saturdays dispatches about Ukraine to show up on all 4. Saw an ad for it at a friends house so noted it down to remind me to watch it and haven’t been able to find it.

AgnesWestern · 19/03/2022 18:52

@smilingthroughgrittedteeth No, as it’ll likely set my anxiety off again. Let us know if anything interesting is said.

smilingthroughgrittedteeth · 19/03/2022 18:53

@Onceuponatimeinalandfaraway im finding it quite measured so far

Igotjelly · 19/03/2022 19:03

Measured in what way? I’m putting DD to bed so can’t watch it.