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DC feels aggrieved because school friends have ‘more’

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Foolsrule · 12/11/2021 09:03

A bit of a strange one. We live in a nice house in a nice area. DC attend a school with a mixed catchment and have friends from a range of backgrounds. Eldest DC is under the impression that we are poor as we don’t have a huge wide screen TV, she doesn’t have her own phone and I send her to school swimming with a plain John Lewis towel as opposed to a branded/themed Disney one. She seems envious of her friends who seem to have a lot of ‘stuff’ on a daily basis, but don’t have the holidays, the range of out of school activities etc. and opportunities she has. I have explained that different families do things differently, we place value on different things but neither way is right or wrong, and she still seems to feel hard done by. Some of it might be about fitting in? Any ideas, anyone?

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SarahAndQuack · 12/11/2021 09:07

Is there a reason you couldn't suck it up and buy a Disney towel if that's what she wants? I get that there are things where you may not compromise, and I know themed stuff is usually rubbish quality, but how much does it matter?

I think for big things it's fair to say to her you're the adult and you've chosen how you spend the finite amount of money you have. But I'd probably compromise a bit on the little things.

mvmvmvmv · 12/11/2021 09:09

The Disney towel is an easy fix as above poster said.

How old is she? Perhaps it is time to get her a phone?

Branleuse · 12/11/2021 09:10

Id get her a fancy towel if it made her feel more like she fitted in with her friends

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Eltonsglasses · 12/11/2021 09:10

I have explained that different families do things differently, we place value on different things but neither way is right or wrong, and she still seems to feel hard done by. Some of it might be about fitting in? Any ideas, anyone?

She is a kid so doesn't share your values? She just feels 'left out'

It's hard to guess an age here as you mention Disney towels and mobile phones but I'm guessing primary? Would you be looking to get her a phone for high school or is it a blanket decision not to give them phones?

MargaretThursday · 12/11/2021 09:10

I suspect it's more about fitting in.

We were probably averagely rich in our school growing up. But we never got the latest fashion/branded stuff because it was expensive. I remember dm deciding the beaver's uniform for db was too expensive and buying a plain grey tracksuit and embroidering BEAVERS across the front. I cringed for db (who I don't think cared!).

I didn't care about having the latest gadgets or fashion clothes but I did care about fitting in. I would look enviously at the item that dm had deemed "tacky and going to fall apart quickly" and bought me what she saw as a better equivalent, but I just wanted to be the same as everyone else.

Spiceup · 12/11/2021 09:12

I'd get her the Disney towel for Christmas.

Honestly, she sounds like someone who will never think she has "enough". Giving her more isn't going to solve that. Carry on with what you're doing and she will eventually get it, even if it takes her til middle age!

LettertoHermoine · 12/11/2021 09:14

How old is she OP?

SarahAndQuack · 12/11/2021 09:14

What you say about your mum judging things 'tacky' rings a bell, @MargaretThursday (and great name!).

I wonder, OP, if your DD picks up on the fact you're implying a kind of judgment of her friends/her friends' parents, and feels a bit prickly because of it? My mum was always loudly telling me we didn't buy x because it was cheap rubbish, or we didn't have y because it was poor quality. Quite predictably, it rubbed people up the wrong way, and looking back, I am quite sure some of the messages I got about 'your mum can't afford to buy you this' came direct from parents who'd answered 'why does Sarah's mum say my barbie is cheap rubbish' with 'that's very rude of her, probably she can't afford to buy them'.

MargaretThursday · 12/11/2021 09:17

@SarahAndQuack
Yes. And we'd walk past a cafe with dm proclaiming loudly how lucky we were to have the lovely healthy brown sandwiches that she had made rather than the unhealthy rubbish people were eating there.

Now I have a choice I go for the unhealthy rubbish every time. Grin

Antsgomarching · 12/11/2021 09:19

I think you are flash for having john lewis towels 😬. Can you gently explain that while she may feel poor there are people with more and people with a lot less and we don’t judge people on the things they have and shouldn’t judge others either.

I know it’s difficult and yeah it probably is about fitting in but then where does it end. I’m not sure that just giving that stuff will improve things because there will always be more thats needed to fit in. I doubt all her classmates have disney towels.The phone though probably is something you should look at at some point. Her classmates will start communicating and being excluded from that would genuinely put her at a disadvantage.

Tbh I live somewhere with massive eextremes in wealth and my DD goes to a fancy nursery and will probably go to one of the fancy big schools (tiny country so not actually that fancy) and I’m dreading the comparisons between her and some of her no doubt much wealthier classmates.

Rainbowheart1 · 12/11/2021 09:19

I’d get her a towel if I’m honest. Children don’t share the same outlook and values as an adult.

TokyoSushi · 12/11/2021 09:21

I think it's about fitting in. If there's something that causes no harm/is relatively inexpensive like having a certain type of swimming towel that I usually let my DC have these sorts of things. They're a big deal to kids and if it's something that makes their lives a bit easier or makes them feel good then if you can afford it I'd oblige.

ReadtheFT · 12/11/2021 09:24

I would not buy her stuff for thw porpouse of fitting in. Or she will learn that yes, fitting in is THE most important thing, ie following the crowd. Keep explaining to her and she will understand at some point.
Otherwise it starts with disney towel and never ends.

Atla · 12/11/2021 09:24

What age is she? I would just buy her the towel for Christmas if she wants one.

As for phone just either say 'no you're too young' or whatever - when she says "oh, mummy but Lenore, Camelia and Trudy have one" just say that's up to their parents.

My mum used to designate things as 'cheap rubbish' and 'plastic tat' and I did feel very left out at times. The story of the embroidered beavers logo resonated with me!

SarahAndQuack · 12/11/2021 09:25

[quote MargaretThursday]@SarahAndQuack
Yes. And we'd walk past a cafe with dm proclaiming loudly how lucky we were to have the lovely healthy brown sandwiches that she had made rather than the unhealthy rubbish people were eating there.

Now I have a choice I go for the unhealthy rubbish every time. Grin[/quote]
OMG yes!

My mum still pulls a disbelieving, disgusted face if I buy white sliced bread - she can't quite believe I didn't unquestioningly imbibe the message it was Not Quite Our Class, Dear. She asked why once; I said 'because I like it'. This did not compute.

InDubiousBattle · 12/11/2021 09:25

I'm guessing as it's a Disney towel your dd is still quite young? I'd buy her a Disney towel, fitting in is important to little children.

SleighBells21 · 12/11/2021 09:27

Buy her a Disney towel.

MondayYogurt · 12/11/2021 09:27

It's time for a family viewing of Blood Sweat and Tshirts

Foolsrule · 12/11/2021 09:30

Age is year 6 (almost 11). I have said she can have a phone when she goes to high school. I will get a different towel. I just can’t seem to get across to her that she’s really lucky in many ways.

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Driposaurus · 12/11/2021 09:30

When I was a kid the cool kids brought their home ec or PE stuff in a river island carrier bag.

We had an Asda one.

When I had enough money to buy something from River Island I was more excited about the bag than what I bought.

It’s about fitting in… but you need to pick which battles.

DGFB · 12/11/2021 09:30

I agree, get her a Disney towel.
If she’s in secondary she needs a phone?

FawnFrenchieMum · 12/11/2021 09:31

I think there is a compromise to be had here. Birthdays and Christmas in our house are the time for DC to choose things that I might not think are the best value or ‘worth it’ such as branded towels, clothes, tacky crap.

Comedycook · 12/11/2021 09:31

I don't think this is about money at all. Huge TVs are pretty cheap these days. A Disney towel probably costs roughly the same as a John Lewis one I'd imagine. You sound a little more understated than others perhaps? Growing up, we had more money than some of my friends but they had a lifestyle that i as a child thought seemed better...again, biggers TVs, branded clothes etc. Kids love that stuff!

Foolsrule · 12/11/2021 09:34

@Comedycook - you’re right. We’ve also lived abroad and I’d say have a broader outlook on many things than some of the more local families (for want of a better description).

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RedAndGreenPlaid · 12/11/2021 09:35

We had this. Compromise and discussion are the way forward. We had no television at all (true MNer stylee ), lived in an old house filled with books, had an older car, rarely holidayed abroad (for environmental reasons), didn't do branded/character anything, etc etc etc and their school friends had parents that all drove cars less than 3 years old, mostly range rovers, mercedes, BMWs, flew abroad several times a year, had houses that looked like Mrs Hinch's etc.
We just talked about how people and families are all different, about how much things cost (because my children were genuinely clueless that one has to pay for housing, fuel, taxes, etc Confused) and that some cars, houses, shoes cost more than others. We also introduced them to the fact that their school wasn't actually free either (they were old enough to know that, without too much detail so we didn't induce guilt for something they had no say in).
And the next time we went away, they both got to choose a new beach/swimming towel to their taste, and we did our best (despite the offences to our aesthetic senses) to allow them more choice in what is bought for them, to show them that we value their opinions and respect their tastes.
I now have one teen who chooses the most flamboyant, maximalist EVERYTHING but is big on 'vintage', re-using, reducing, etc, and one that chooses only the plainest, under the radar, minimalist possible of anything they need, but requests the same brand trainers/bag as peers to fit in.

But they're both happy with the things they have, and are far more aware of what they have, how much the cost of living is, and are more aware of people that don't have the things they need, let alone things they want.