Greek man confesses to killing his wife

[didihearthatright123456]

Right from the very start I knew it was him! That poor woman, having the life choked out of her for daring to leave her husband. A baby who will never know her mummy

Just heartbreaking

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9698321/Greek-husband-CONFESSES-murdering-British-wife-Caroline-Crouch-sources-say.html

Sorry for the daily shame link 😞

[bellamountain]

She was so young, at 20 life experience is very different to that of someone in their 30s. Truly tragic, her baby and her dog. My heart goes pot to her parents.

[sqirrelfriends]

I'm surprised at all.

That poor girl and her poor baby. I really hope the child has been cared for by someone else in the interim.

[Mrstumblesspottyface]

[quote shewalkslikerihanna]@SamW98
Quote
Media reports are saying she had told him she was leaving and taking the daughter.

That’s the most dangerous time for a woman, when she says she’s leaving.

It made me think of oscar pistorius. How his story had more holes than a colander.[/quote]
Years ago I worked with domestic violence charities.

The women we worked with were always told to never tell him you are leaving or that you want to leave. He won’t change, he will become more of a danger to you.

Cases like this shoe just how true that is.

These men are evil.

[viques]

@Nightbear

Get to fuck with your ‘not all men.’

How many women have been murdered by their current or former partners this year? How many women have been murdered by men who were strangers to them because they happened to cross paths with them?

This is male violence.

I put a not all men reference in my post, not because I am protecting the reputation of men, but because I think the similarities in all these stories are frightening, and ,what is more , the similarities are cross cultural, and additionally involve all class and economic demographics . Somehow all of us, particularly women and girls, need to be educated to recognise the techniques, the isolation, the possessiveness, the jealousy , the obsessive behaviours, the spitefulness. How can we teach young, and not so young women to recognise red flags and safely ask for help, how can we teach other men to recognise them too, and respond to them so that they can support their daughters, sisters, nieces, cousins and friends . And importantly , how can we teach young women to raise their self esteem and lower their social anxiety so that they are less vulnerable to the conniving, manipulative men who prey on them.


Of course we shouldn’t have to be finding ways to safeguard against these monsters, it stinks of victim blaming, but these vile people are at large, are in our world and are targeting vulnerable people.

[ComDummings]

Gosh just read the update and it appears the night of the murder Caroline had tried to book herself into a hotel. So as others have said when a woman tries to leave it is the most dangerous time. She tried to get away from that evil bastard and he wouldn’t let her. Also the police let him attend the memorial because they were still gathering evidence and didn’t want to spook him into running. On the surface it does seem cruel that he was allowed to attend but they wanted a water tight case before they confronted him which is totally understandable.

[SamW98]

I've just watched a programme on ID out a lady called Lisa Harnum who was controlled, manipulated and bullied by her partner who threw her off of a 15th floor balcony when she tried to leave him

Absolutely horrific

[TheSockMonster]

@SamW98

I've just watched a programme on ID out a lady called Lisa Harnum who was controlled, manipulated and bullied by her partner who threw her off of a 15th floor balcony when she tried to leave him

Absolutely horrific

It’s terrifying.

I wonder, had Caroline “jumped” from her balcony, would this be just another post partum suicide?

But I guess he wanted to look into her eyes as he snuffed the life from them. I wonder how many times he’d had his hands around her neck before then. It is such a very male crime.

[Sadsiblingatsea]

Yet another avoidable femicide.
No doubt the #NotAllMen crowd will be bleating.
The Greek media are already victim blaming - “he killed her because he loved her” shtick.
I am disgusted. twitter.com/katia0/status/1405821517037027332?s=21

[Return2thebasic]

That story haunted me for days , feeling sorry for the wife and what she suffered before death (in front of the baby, as it was told.) Bastard evil soul! I do agree the other previous post. He might well have planned it for a while, instead of an instant temper strike. Someone who lied once, would lie more.

To confess, I didn't think it was the husband. (I didn't watch the TV or his interview. Only read the news.) I wanted to believe they were a loving couple! Naive me!

RIP to the beautiful mum... It's heartbroken to think the baby would grow up one day realising his dad murdered his mum when he was about. Hope his family from his mum's side would adopt him, not falling into orphanage... Poor child, he's so little.

[Return2thebasic]

So so well said, @viques! It's from the root to help women, particularly those who are young and could easily fall into deception without the right perspective to protect themselves once becoming a domestic violence victim...

[Roselilly36]

Poor Caroline & her baby daughter, and family, how do you begin to recover from such a loss. So, so sad. RIP beautiful Caroline

[Whyhello]

Women shouldn’t tell the man they are planning on leaving, they should always just pack their things up when he’s not around and go. It’s honestly the safest way, especially if you feel the man is controlling or abusive in some other way.

This story is so very tragic. The baby is the same age as mine and I just feel so much sorrow for her. I hope he is locked up for a very long time.

[DinosaurDiana]

I also knew it.
But then the police probably thought so too, but had to find the evidence.
What an absolute twat.

[YellowFish12]

Fucking knew it. Bastard

[Willowowisp]

I also thought it was him from the beginning. Very sad.

[EsmaCannonball]

As soon as I saw this case it reminded me of Anni Dewani. There is no way that criminals that ruthless are going to leave a living witness.

[SnottyLottie]

Honestly, I’m quite naive and clueless at trying to figure things out but even I knew it was him! He was way too calm and I couldn’t stop thinking about why they would only target her and then leave him relatively unscathed.

It makes me feel sick to my stomach 😡😞

[Trevsadick]

@EsmaCannonball The Anni Dewani case is just awful.

And he dragged it out getting to trial and got away with it. Makes me sick, when I think of it.

[AuntMasha]

A terrible loss for Caroline’s loved ones. I think it was pretty obvious from the start that he was guilty. There’s a clip of him speaking to the press as he’s standing next to his car and he can barely make eye contact, keeps looking down and glancing to the side while holding the car door in front of him like a barrier or shield. He’s just giving himself away.

Age gaps are very common in male/female domestic violence cases. The fact it that an inadequate man will choose a young partner since their naivety and lack of experience makes them easier to manipulate.

RIP, Caroline

[Crinkle77]

Knew it!

[Crinkle77]

I couldn't understand at the time why they robbers murdered the wife when the husband would have been more of a threat physically. Or why only one of them and not the other. It just didn't make sense.

[Pumpkinpops]

Just seen it's been reported on the BBC and there is a photo of him hugging her mother at the memorial service. What an absolute fucking bastard, imagine the nerve.

[SirVixofVixHall]

I hope he never gets out. To torture her, kill her dog in front of her, then kill her, all with her baby there. He should never be free again.
That poor woman and baby, her family must be broken.
He will also have previous girlfriends who he has abused.

[SunshineCake]

I was shocked when I saw this as I felt it was him from the beginning but didn't expect to be right.

Does anyone know who is caring for the baby ?.

[DrinkFeckArseGirls]

That’s what happens when women tell violent men they want to leave.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/_chat/4273469-Greek-man-confesses-to-killing-his-wife

Apparently Caroline was due to check into a hotel that night.