ADs teach twisted lyrics to their pet tortoise

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Crawling back to normality slightly slower than a tortoise taking the scenic route...

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In 4 days it will be the bicentennial of the Greek 1821 revolution and war of independence. Known commonly as "Greek Independence Day".

The normal cries of "Ελευθερία ή θάνατος" (pronounced Eleftheria i Thanatos) seem almost poignant this year. Or maybe not poignant but I can't quite get the right word.

Translated it means "Freedom or Death"

Someone on Andrew Marr this morning, I think a Professor in Public Health, was saying we would probably carry on with masks and social distancing for some time. She seemed to think that was all right as “people are used to it now”

I am increasingly concerned that people have lost the will to protest especially having seen people being manhandled by the police as protests are “not allowed” and that was before the new laws which will give them increased powers.

Growing up we were always told that we should be proud to live in a democracy where we had the right to protest, yet now we see countries that are criticised for their human rights records etc allowing protests when we are not even allowed to travel within our own country or meet with more than one person.

Someone on Andrew Marr this morning, I think a Professor in Public Health, was saying we would probably carry on with masks and social distancing for some time. She seemed to think that was all right as “people are used to it now”

It's all bluster. Ignore it.

Thanks all. I can't wait to get on a train and see a friend. Have a coffee and a chat.

Love to all of you.

Hit the point of contacting all contacts. No joy.

More psychological abuse is what it is.

@AcornAutumn

It's great to see you back @Jourdain11 I hope you're doing well.

I'm struggling now with it all. And I know lots of ADs are struggling with eating disorders do please skip this if that's you, it'd probably horribly triggering.

Im trying to be outwardly optimistic but losing weight is my coping mechanism. A part of me thinks if I get scary skinny again to make a t-shirt that says something like 'the last legal form of protest left' or 'at least its just my body, not a statue' maybe throw some Rainbows in for good measure. I just feel so angry right now.

I see Mark Drakeford is being his usual sunny and optimistic self... not back to normality in 2021, according to him. The lack of a Welsh plan for getting out of lockdown is really getting to me. It's like Drakeford never wants to give anyone even the tiniest bit of hope.

Saw on BBC news again yesterday "Minister rules out foreign travel for 2021" the defence secretary. Not the foreign secretary or transport secretary. The defence secretary. Ffs I wanna go on holiday, not go to war.

And the sneering over there about people who want to travel. Reckon we will all suffer because selfish twats want two weeks in benidorm.
Fuck off. Some of us have family we miss dearly and would like to see.

And you know what? So fucking what if people want to go away? Doing anything in this country will still be a potential giant pain in the ass. With having to book everything months in advance because of limited spaces and then having to shelve it all and pay through the nose to do indoor stuff because it's raining. Drives me up the wall, having little or no spontaneity sucks the life out if it.
I feel lucky I got away for a bit last summer and aside from masks on planes and buses/taxis and in shops without opening frontages, life felt pretty normal. You could stroll along and pop into shops without having to queue for half an hour. If you saw a restaurant or bar you liked the look of, you wouldn't get turned away because you hadn't booked it before the last full moon....

Last year we were still in lockdown with a long way to go. We had no vaccines and we were able to go abroad in the summer.
I do not believe this year could be any worse than

@LivinLaVidaLoki

Saw on BBC news again yesterday "Minister rules out foreign travel for 2021" the defence secretary. Not the foreign secretary or transport secretary. The defence secretary. Ffs I wanna go on holiday, not go to war.

Maybe that's the catch. "Yes, you may all go to the Costa del Sol but only if you invade it!"

Maybe that's the catch. "Yes, you may all go to the Costa del Sol butonlyif you invade it!"

@110APiccadilly 😁😂

Though I did feel a bit more positive after bbc breakfast laid out the dates regarding overseas travel and said "12th April will be the date we see when and how international travel will be allowed" when and how. Not if.

@AcornAutumn

Hit the point of contacting all contacts. No joy.

I suspect I might be close to you and I am pretty good at walking. PM me if you like

@AcornAutumn where abouts in the country are you? I'm north Yorkshire.

Saw this this morning and immediately thought of mumsnet....

Loki that's brilliant!

Love it!

I think I'm numb to feeling numb and feeling very dislocated now.

My optomism voice is saying things like "walk with friends from the 29th" "12th April". I even have a running race in mid-April. But last summer, I felt an anticipation for things like July 4th. But I found in the autumn that things were so fragile that I couldn't feelexcited any more, and that's not come back yet. These things are facts, and there's no emotion attached any more.
I can see the raw data on cases/ vaccinations yet still the doom mongers on high are quenching our spirits.
I can see people around meeting with friends and family, but I'm still feeling very isolated because I don't have easy, avaliable connections close by.

Having near constant overcast weather is not helping. Without seeing the bulbs at ground level from the windows, the general view looks like winter still. Feels like it too! I woke up briefly at 5:20am and was astonished that it was dawn as my brain is still stuck in winter.

@justasking111

Anyone else on here getting advertising for tortoises leopard ones??

No but looking them up they are the 4th largest tortoises, grown adults can be up to 16 inches and weigh over 2 stone! Makes my baby one at 42 grams look teeny tiny!

Samuel and ISay

Thank you, that's so kind.

I'm in north London. Tbh I don't do well hanging around outside and there's always the loo problem too. But I really appreciate the offer, maybe when it's warmer and more things are open?

Mostly I am upset because despite the mental health exemption that allows my friends to visit me, they won't. And after 29 March no one will meet outside because it requires one or both parties to use public transport.

checking in.

Well, what a shit day here.

We now cannot move because OH has been furloughed, for a week, but basically if you've been furloughed you will get declined for a mortgage. He also has no overtime for over two months - that was our affordability out the window. According to mortgage advisor we cant even really afford our own house.

Fucking brilliant.

I am genuinely losing the will to live. What is the fucking point anymore. Doesn't matter what i do, nothing goes my way.

@TrustTheGeneGenie. I’m not sure why you were told that. A family member was on furlough and has managed to get a mortgage with Cambridge Building Society. The mortgage offer was on hold until she was taken off furlough, and it’s slightly more expensive than other mortgages out there but otherwise now proceeding as normal. They just needed notification from her employer that she was back at work and her non furloughed pay slip.

Hope you feel able to pick yourself up and dust yourself down soon.

This situation stinks for so many people. Not sure if anyone saw the news about what’s happening in Birmingham? One in ten unemployed and another 55000 expected to be added to that before the end of the year. 😢

Not sure if anyone saw the news about what’s happening in Birmingham? One in ten unemployed and another 55000 expected to be added to that before the end of the year.

Jesus Christ. The economy is going to be fucked for decades, isn't it?