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Madeleine McCann- new suspect thread 2

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Smallsteps88 · 05/06/2020 23:37

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Arewedone · 09/06/2020 16:11

Praying he doesn’t get released

Blackbear19 · 09/06/2020 17:50

The real horrific thing about it if he wins the appeal is it would be a complete technicality.
In that you can only be charged with the crimes you were 'extrodited' for. He was extradited from Italy for drugs or something then charged with the rape.

Sorry about spelling.

LadyEloise · 09/06/2020 18:16

@Zug2
Brilliant post.
I shall contact the Portuguese ambassador and ask some of those questions. We want our female Irish ministers to ask those questions loudly.
Isn't Helen Mc Entee a Junior Minister for Foreign Affairs or something??
Any of her constituents on this thread ?

I had never heard of Hazel's case.

WornDownTired · 09/06/2020 18:27

"Who can tell us what the suspect's life was like, where has he been with his cars, who has been in his houses and can tell us what they look like from the inside. And we hope that maybe we find victims that maybe also got in these houses, victims of sexual crimes."

Just lifted this from Sky news said by German Prosecutor. So basically they have videos and they want to find out where those places are to go look there for evidence of his crimes. I'm sick to the stomach.

GreyGardens88 · 09/06/2020 18:32

@WornDownTired

"Who can tell us what the suspect's life was like, where has he been with his cars, who has been in his houses and can tell us what they look like from the inside. And we hope that maybe we find victims that maybe also got in these houses, victims of sexual crimes."

Just lifted this from Sky news said by German Prosecutor. So basically they have videos and they want to find out where those places are to go look there for evidence of his crimes. I'm sick to the stomach.

Yes definitely looks that way Sad How else do they have evidence that Madeleine has died and know how she was killed like they are saying. They have said they have evidence that they have NOT yet made public.
Swiftsseason · 09/06/2020 18:42

Bobby, I'm not sure.. At night, disorientated... Crying... Lots of people coming into apartment... Possibly even the perp.. Half asleep, in the dark... Distressed...

She's only 3..and possibly couldn't think

Swiftsseason · 09/06/2020 18:45

Zug 2.

Yes.

bellmyring · 09/06/2020 18:47

What a great interview by Hazel Behan. Such an impressive speaker and a brave woman.

It's CRAZY if the Portuguese don't have DNA evidence for checking. That should have been basic procedure going back 25 years. It's well known a lot of these people are serial offenders.

GorgeousLadyofWrestling · 09/06/2020 18:48

It’s just so unbearably sad. In many ways, I always kind of wished it had been an accident because the alternative, the very probable alternative, was unbearable to think about. The idea that he knew they were being left alone each night is just...I don’t have words for it. It’s just horrific.

Mnthrowaway20202 · 09/06/2020 18:50

How else do they have evidence that Madeleine has died and know how she was killed like they are saying.

I don’t necessarily think there’s footage. Read an article recently with information from his ex colleagues - they were discussing the case at work with him present and he suddenly became very agitated. He wanted them to cease speaking about her and said something along the lines of “she’s dead, it’s very easy to get rid of a human body. Pigs eat human flesh”. They went on to report that, so perhaps that’s what the police are going off.

Swiftsseason · 09/06/2020 19:06

Mm, any of us could say that!
Anyone could get bad tempered about the case and say something like that...

Eg oh shut up, the parents did it, she wandered off... Fell down a drain, got eaten by pigs, whatever...

I'm positive they have much more to focus on than tat!

BeyondDreamsOfBeyondFourWalls · 09/06/2020 19:10

I'm fairly sure I probably have said that over the course of 13 years, especially to people who somehow insist she is alive and living a happy adoption.

I once knew someone who used to joke (and no, obviously it's not funny at all) that he had her under his bed. Fairly sure he didn't actually do it.

Arewedone · 09/06/2020 19:40

Re the evidence, I read that CB pal he was drinking with gave information to the police that only the perpetrator would know which hadn’t been released. So not necessarily video info.

Mrsemcgregor · 09/06/2020 19:43

Does anyone know the best reddit thread for this case? I find reddit a really good source of information but with this one I’m finding too many threads, I need the definitive one.

DigOutThoseLemonHandWipes · 09/06/2020 19:46

They could have information that he has told someone that isn't in the public domain. An example (and obviously that all it is) that I've already given would be him bragging to a cell mate that he did it and carried her from the apartment wrapped in the rug. If there was a rug missing from the scene but that information had never been made public it would give the police good reason to think he was involved (or knows who was) but isn't enough to prosecute on as it would be hearsay.

Swiftsseason · 09/06/2020 19:46

Are, it's amazing in a case like this across so many police forces that any details have been left out!

AlternativePerspective · 09/06/2020 20:39

On BBC the German prosecutors are saying this case will likely end without a resolution as people aren’t coming forward.

Zug2 · 09/06/2020 20:41

I would also wonder how the American woman was treated by the Portuguese police when she reported the rape all those years ago. I wonder if her experience was the same as Hazel Behan and the McCanns, she probably cannot say anything until after the case is tried, but I would not be surprised if she has a similar account to how her case was mishandled. considering it took over 15 years for it to come to court.

The report from Hazel Behan really puts an even brighter spotlight on how the McCanns were treated by the police.

Swiftsseason · 09/06/2020 20:41

Over 400 people have called in alternative.

Hmm

Only 1 lead needs to be hot.

Someone is hopefully out there agonising and will speak out

Zug2 · 09/06/2020 20:44

@AlternativePerspective

On BBC the German prosecutors are saying this case will likely end without a resolution as people aren’t coming forward.
That will be heartbreaking and soul destroying if that is the case.
june2007 · 09/06/2020 20:45

The news today on one had they said they had strong evidence on the other they said no convictions and need more, sounds like it,s not enough tconvict this Christian to either the German girl or the Maddeline.

ButteryPuffin · 09/06/2020 20:45

I also wonder if the 'no one's coming forward' bit is for the benefit of anyone thinking 'I don't want to but they're bound to hear from someone else'

iVampire · 09/06/2020 20:57

Sounds to me as if they are after a few fairly specific pieces of testimony/evidence, that will tie the known events into a legally prove-able case

Swiftsseason · 09/06/2020 21:13

They have now got a satilite picture of his van, at his house after the kidnap. Incredible! Someone has trawled through years of images and found this!
I guess this means a search of that house and land.

Dk20 · 09/06/2020 21:15

@Swiftsseason

They have now got a satilite picture of his van, at his house after the kidnap. Incredible! Someone has trawled through years of images and found this! I guess this means a search of that house and land.
Was there much land at the house?