Madeleine McCann- new suspect thread 2

[Smallsteps88]

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It's hard to tell but certainly not a built up area.

It was the farmhouse he had rented previously so had land and wells

A key point about the house is the number of deep wells on the land.
Its incredible they are saying they know she isn’t alive and know how she died but don’t have enough evidence to hold him. Utterly heartbreaking.
Going back to the police. Interesting that one of the lead police in the MM case working under Amaral was found guilty of beating Joana Ciprianos mother & later found guilty of using fake warrants to pass info onto thieves to break into property. McCanns didn’t stand a chance if this was the Calibre of people investigating.

What the chances they have satellite images of the hotel at the time of the kidnap. Or even the surrounding streets, vehicles etc.

Someone on Reddit mentioned that, Google maps is fairly easy to skip back in time and the locations had been made public. He said oh I expect the police already know, and someone replied to say send it in anyway. He later updated and said he'd sent it in by email, that was 2 days ago/maybe yesterday.

Sometimes what seems obvious if you're a bit of a "web sleuth" will be totally different to the tools the professionals are using - perhaps it didn't cross their mind to check something as ordinary as google maps! Or maybe they also found it but unrelated to that tip off.

It's not from the exact day but a few weeks later. But possibly Google have archive images they hadn't put onto Maps.

Also, at google maps quality (from 2007) there's no way you'd be able to make out a person from that distance. Vehicles maybe, at least a vague sense of their size and colour.

Here’s the satellite image. You can see the wells

This boils down to three words: rape conviction rates.

My hope for the end result? For once, people notice that a rapist who should have been in prison was out and about keen to do it again. And again, evidently, in Brueckner's case.

You don't say. Like Ian Huntley, and Peter Sutcliffe, just for starters, who had both been reported endlessly to police by women victims, and escalated to murder cos they knew they'd got away with it.

We need to make rape laws work. Ian Huntley was accused of violent stranger rape by over 100 separate men and women, and got away with all of them because of the consent threshold in law. Peter Sutcliffe's victims were just ignored cos they were female.

As of 2020, rape convictions are going down, not up.

Are...

That sounds more like it. Total corruption.
Is Portugal a poor country. I must admit I don't know much about it, apart from cliff Richards vine yard!!

I expect the police are poorly paid and also supplement work by being corrupt.
If this man is found responsible for the rape of the poor Irish lady and the death of mm, can the eu do something about the sheer negligence of their duty of care to visitors?

I assume there is technology to look at disturbed land even from the 13 years ago and equipment to look in Wells?

I wonder if it’s relevant that he’s parked his van on that grassy land near the well and not up beside his house on the drive.

Didn't know that about Ian Huntley..

@Smallsteps88 in the original interviews Amaral says that it didn’t become a crime until after 48 hours up until that point it was a disappearance which doesn’t allow the same level of investigation. Ultimately it meant that the CCTV on the road leading to Estrella Da Luz had been over written. If the perp was the man the smith family saw, this would have been captured on that camera.

Perhaps op! But there's a hell of a lot of land there.
Even if they found the body would that be enough to convict him?

This utterly violent depraved man ever going free is terrifying, that's on his history with gf, sex for drugs and the older American lady without factoring in these other crimes

Wasn't there a child trapped in one of those wells in that area (or nearby - maybe Spain) last year? I can't remember if they got him out alive but I remember the reporting on it :( He was only about 2 IIRC.

He could have parked closer to the well. There is another white square thing in front of his van before the house.

in the original interviews Amaral says that it didn’t become a crime until after 48 hours up until that point it was a disappearance which doesn’t allow the same level of investigation. Ultimately it meant that the CCTV on the road leading to Estrella Da Luz had been over written

Maybe it’s time they changed that law in the cases of missing children. So they can immediately access the CCTV of surrounding streets/shops etc. Even if a child toddled off by themselves the CCTV could have them found very quickly.

Spanish 2 year old who fell into well - no they didn't get him out alive :( I found that so upsetting last year. www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-47012276

By the looks of those wells (if they are of a similar type) it would be incredibly difficult to search them, and not that difficult for somebody to partially fill one in. Maybe with a sniffer dog? Though the history of dogs on this case...

Yeah I find it odd that in the immediate aftermath the entire area knew of her disappearance and all the local people volunteered. You would expect someone to say let’s check the cctv

They have incredible equipment now though to search wrecks underwater etc don't they.

Possibly, but if it's the middle of the night you can't necessarily get hold of the shop owner to access their CCTV that urgently, and the time spent trying to do that is time an officer could be doing something else. I suppose they could have left a note on all the doors and/or just take one person out of the investigation to chase that kind of thing up.

When my DS went missing a neighbour went to the local shop to ask if they’d seen him, they immediately checked the CCTV and saw that he had been in and which direction he went when he left.

Perhaps CCTV isn't as common in Portugal as it is in the UK. I know it isn't in Germany. So it isn't people's first instinct to look for it like it is here, because most of the time there just isn't any.

Also I think we are quite tuned into the idea of CCTV being useful in a case of missing children, because of all the UK cases where it has been helpful - Holly and Jessica, James Bulger spring to mind but I'm sure there have been more.

We had someone attacked near us, the next morning police knocked on all houses with ring door bells to ask us to look at particular times.

You'd think one of those bumbling useless policemen could have had that job, to ask cctv owners to hold onto it a girl is missing!

I'm sure they would all oblige considering they need tourism.