Madeleine McCann- new suspect thread 2

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What I’m struggling with is the lack of communication between police forces. Surely with all these missing children police forces should work together and internationally when different nationalities are implicated.

@Arewedone they show one picture here at minute 10:14
www.cmjornal.pt/multimedia/videos/detalhe/reconstituicao--tio-de-joana-conta-ao-pormenor-a-execucao-do-crime-que-vitimou-menina-de-oito-anos?ref=HP_DestaqueLateral

The PJ files has all the statements of witnesses and maps drawn, photos etc

It’s been a while since I looked it all up. I followed quite closely because it was so sad obviously but members of my family had the key thing in their eye that she had.

Arrested for what?

Considering how hard the Portuguese police inspector was gunning for them don;t you think they would have been arrested if there was any teeny shred of even half baked 'evidence' they had done anythung ?

I don't even know which child or couple is being discussed now tbh.....

I'm assuming MMCann consideirng Joana's mother only got out of prison last year. But I may be wrong.

@Henlie

You all seem very clued up with regards to interviews etc in the case of Madeleine. What are the best sources to read to avoid outright conspiracy theories?

I’d suggest taking a look at the Peter Hyatt Statement Analysis...... It’s very interesting and may change how you look at the case.

I wouldn't, unless you're into pseudoscience.

It's mad out there when you Google. Who is Jill Havern? There's a website and a Facebook with a load of other websites. Why is she/he so obsessed?

I wonder if CF was involved or knew about MM disappearance and was somehow taking some delight in the McCann's distress in inviting them over

I remember reading about this about his death. There was a suspicion that Clement Freud befriended the McCann’s to stay close to the investigation and find out what they knew, what leads they had. Otherwise it seemed a bizarre thing to do. Equally bizarre I’d say for them to accept the invitation. All a bit odd. I didn’t and still don’t know what (if anything) to read into it.

Sorry. I mean I read about it “after” his death,.

That’s the only reason I can see for his actions, that he wanted to pass info back to his paedophile friends so they could prepare in case they were about to be arrested.

It’s all so murky.

In Kate McCaan's book she says that when Clement Freud answered the door to her and Gerry he said something along the lines of "So Kate, which one are you? Nymphomaniac or alcoholic?" (I am paraphrasing slightly) And she says she couldn't help but laugh.

Very wrong on lots of levels.

Cf I say all those things and perhaps mccans accepted in case he divulged something?

What the hell is going on in Portugal it all sounds like utter Maddness... Paid thugs to come in? Liked the fbi!

I got half way through the first thread on this and had to abandon it as i shouldn't have read it with the state my hormones are in! I couldn't sleep from worrying. Obvs so much has been said over and over again, so much speculation. The fact that someone out there knows what happened.
The area they were staying in was apparently a hot spot for paeodos. Well what i saw nearly 20 years ago was chilling. We were on hols in the Algarve. It was 2001. We drove to a remote(ish) place and stopped at a cafe in the mountains. There was a guy there wearing a dirty t shirt with a graphic sex image on and he was staring too much at a girl of about 13. I remember thinking god, what a perv. Maddie went missing 6 years later but what if he was the monster who took her, or was involved in some way? At the time obvs no one could have known it would happen. At the time of her disappearance i wasn't a mother but now i have a young child and that weirdo at the cafe freaks me out to this day.

BooseysMom do you think it could have been the same guy?

No, god no, i bloody hope not! I can't remember what he looked like it was so long ago and it has only just come into my thoughts as people in the 1st thread were saying there was a hot spot for paedos. I don't even remember where we were and where in relation to the place they stayed. It was years before she went missing.
The whole thing is so awful

Never read of CF until it was mentioned on here. Very odd for him to randomly approach the parents. Did he want to ve close to the investigation? It would make sebse. Maybe there was a paedophile ring there, he was the rich one and had others working for him, possibly the likes of CB? Pure speculation of course. No idea if and how they might be connected. CF's comments to Kate McCann are also very odd. I'm sure she wasn't thinking straight at the time. As an outsider it's easier to see how creepy/grooming his behaviour was.

be and sense, excuse my terrible spelling

I have never been to Portugal but I have to say this thread has totally put me off ever going now.

He must have really freaked you out to remember him so many years later.

I was attacked by a paedophile when I was 12, luckily got away, but I had PTSD for 3 years after that. BooseysMum - I can sense how you felt and believe you had a reason for it. Always, always, always trust your instincts ladies when you notice a person making you feel uncomfortable. I had the last minute instinct which saved my life. I had it again on three occasions in my life, I left the place/crossed the road only to see the men who made me feel endangered having a wank or exposing themselves in public places. Never neglect your inner voice or anxiety.

Re going to Portugal. I've been to the Algarve and enjoyed it. Lagos and Carvoeiro bring back happy memories and are worth visiting. The issue is, paedophiles and abusers live amongst us, everywhere. It is also likely there are more of them in most holiday destinations. Crowds, lots of children, teenagers, tourists not knowing the area create the perfect storm. I don't think the answer is to shut ourselves off forever. It's about being vigilant and reporting suspicious behaviours. The more intelligence provided to the police the better.

i have never been to Portugal but I have to say this thread has totally put me off ever going now

I went once long ago but have always said since what happened and with the way the Portugese police handled the case and the number of dangerous men that seemed to be at large there, i decided i would never go again.